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Re: NFC: Fish Disease Help anyone

Scott Davis wrote:

In response to:
> > The way to get rid of Chloramines is to double the Sodium Thiosulfate
> > concentration, which will eventually break down the Chloramines.  That's
> the
> > stuff in dechlorinator solutions bought at pet stores.  Heavy aeration
> also
> > helps break Chloramines down.
> Be careful of using just Sodium Thiosulphate or Novaqua on chloramines. That
> same thread that Doug Dame alluded to suggested that just getting rid of the
> chlorine can lead to a fatal ammonia spike. Perhaps a better case can be
> made for Amquel and the like. Still vigorously aerate if possible.

I *strongly* second Scott's caution, here.

I know of two really major fishrooms that were virtually wiped out by not
understanding the dangers of hypo-based dechlor products. In thousands more
cases, damaged gills and stunting have resulted as the ammonia burned, but
didn't fully kill, the fish.

The solution is trivial. Use "Amquel," "Prime," "Ammo lock2," or other
products that *do* neutralized the combination of chlorine and ammonia. 

EPA mandates chloramine in most domestic water, these days, so get rid of
any old-style dechlorinator product that you may have around before you do
serious damage with it. Pour it down the drain.

One clue is to look for ignorant marketing brags like "breaks the chlorine
ammonia bond!" That's just about the *last* thing you want happening in your
tank. The burst of ammonia is quite deadly if your pH isn't below 7.

BTW, EPA is also mandating addition of lime o/e to get pH above 8 so your
lead and copper pipes don't poison you. That and chloramine are a wicked 1-2
punch for your fish if you use any product, like "Novaqua," based on sodium
hypochlorite (photographer's "hypo") to strip the chlorine from chloramine.


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