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Rules and Guidelines for The Native Fish Conservancy List and Sublists
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Last Revisions: 18 Septembre 2000.
Revisions: (April) Blended last addendums with document. Corrected
spelling and grammatical errors. Added
some ohter ones. Made some comments a little less "harsh." Added
remarks on the Articles Page.
Etc. Read the whole thing.
Revisions (Sept) Added section on FWL. Added section under SPAM on NFC
Promos. Rewrote cross-post, mostly for clarity. Added BPEzine
Section. Removed Articles section.
Contacting List Administrator
The list's administrator is always available at the e-mail address:
<list>-owner at actwin_com For the NFC Lists, this is
NFC-Owner at actwin_com. Feel free to contact me at this address with
suggestions, praise, offers of money, or complaints.
SPAM:
Spam is defined as followed: Any unwelcome commercial posting, or
multiple postings of the same materiel. (Such as posting the same
message five times.) The following exceptions exist:
-=Relevant=- Articles
Fish Wish List: This is a collective post of people looking for fishes.
There is a section for commercial messages. These are run by
individuals on the list. Other such units should gain approval from the
list manager before posting. See details on FWL below.
Accidental repeats: Your router is lagging, and a message didn't make
it through for eight hours. You repeated it. Both got sent. As long
as it's obviously not purposeful, it won't get you in trouble.
Auction Stuff: That is fine, as long as it is the NFC auction [so, no,
you cannot auction off a date with yourself... and, no, I can't do that
either (sorry gals)]
NFC Promotional Stuff: Occassionally, the NFC makes various deals with
companies for promotions. Examples of these companies include
Amazon.Com, Pets.Com, etc. These companies are NOT permitted, under any
circumstances, to send ads, spam or any other such information to NFC
List Members without their concent, nor are they permitted to send
postings to the lists. However, relevant announcements about these
companies and occassional reminders of the promotions with them are
permitted.
This Post: The next person out there who tells me I've posted this more
than once....
First Offense: Warning.
Second Offense: Suspension from list for time period of administrators
discretion.
Third: Permanent removal.
Extremely offensive material may result in immediate and permanent
removal. Examples include sex or pornographic advertisements, chain
letters, and triangle/pyramid/etc. scams. These will also result in a
nice little letter sent to your server's administrator, which may result
in revocation of your account there.
SPAM sent from addressed not on the list does not go thru. However,
they do create a bounce to the list-owners private account. Any spam
traced from a false address back to a list member will result in the
above, skipping first offense.
Bluntly, I'm sick and tired of getting a mailbox full of spam, you all
don't like it, I don't like it. Especially not when I've already got a
ton of it.
FLAMES:
A flame is any insulting or in/flam/atory remark. This is something
meant to intentionally anger or upset someone else. This is at the
receiving parties and/or list admin.'s discretion.
First and Second Offense: Warnings.
Third and Forth Offense: Suspension for time period of admin.
discretion.
Fifth: Removal.
Watch what you say, and you won't get in trouble. Light comments
will generally be ignored. Also, remember that there is no tone in
writing. "You know, you're a real putz." can be read as insulting or a
light, jestful remark.
POSTS:
Keep the material in posts relevant. Some wandering of topics is
bound to occur, and will generally be ignored. Keep the politics to a
minimum. Completely off topic posts should not be made.
General Offense: Notice to keep on topic to list.
Continued: Warnings.
Regular: Suspension.
Continued Regular: Removal.
An occasional off-topic post is bound to be made, and going to be
fine, such as, "Just want the list to know that my wife and I are now
expecting our first baby in June!" or "Having a big problem with my
beautiful pair of Oscars, anyone help?" or something along that line is
fine, as long as it's not a constant thing.
This is discretionary. Yes, it's a fish list. If you have a
question about fish that is off topic: You may send it to me at
JLW at pi_dune.net. If I can't answer it myself, I'll get it answered, or
just make up something that sounds good.
Keep the list relevant. If you are constantly posting irrelevant
messages, and so forth, I'm going to just regard it as SPAM and put you
under that headline.
General Posting Guidelines:
Please remember that a message sent to NFC at actwin_com reaches more
than a hundred people.
Try not to be annoying or offensive. One line posts such as, "I agree!"
or "You're wrong" are
meaningless. They're just going to be something to bother other people,
especially if you've quoted the four pages of the original message in it
and the six replies that came with it. In short, make sure you
actually have something to say before you hit send.
Bad Subjects:
Majordomo is weird. It doesn't like it if you send out a message
with the word "Subscribe,"
"unsubscribe," or "help" in the subject. We tend to use the word HELP a
lot. Fortunately, it now seems Majordomo will forward on messages in
which HELP is not the first word. So, instead of sending a message such
as "Help Needed With Darters!" change it to "Can anyone help me with
darters?" Occassionally, the words placement will be irrelevant, and I
just assume you type in something different, such as "Can anyone h*lp me
with darters?"
Threads:
A thread is defined as a group of messages of the same topic making
up more than three
replies. This is the initial message, a reply, and a reply to that
reply. It is not two replies to the same message.
Threads of general interest are permitted on the list. After all,
the list is for the members of it.
However, threads tend to dissolve into a conversation between two or
three people. If this is the case, it should be taken off-list and
brought to just the people involved.
CROSS POSTS:
We've added some new lists, and are back up to a fairly high number.
These include NFC, FWL, NFCBreeders, NFCPonds, Adopt-A-Tank, and
BPEzine. These lists all have similar topics, but are not identical.
Please limit cross posts between them, as well as cross posts between
these and non-NFC lists. This means do not send a message to more than
one list. Any given message is most likely relevant to only one list,
and should be sent there. Sometimes they're relevant to more than one,
and you should simply choose the most relevant one.
FWL:
The Fish Wish list, due to the number of defunct ads in it has been
redone. The ads are now only posted on the list for three months, at
which time the owner of the ad is contacted and asked if he wishes to
continue it. Nonmembers may list for free on the list at any time, but
are charged a 3$ fee per listing. Members of NFC list for free.
Commercial posts are permitted. Generally, they are charged the same
non-member fee. However, different fees may apply based on the ad and
the discretion of the Manager. Ads submitted MUST be in the format of
the list, or will be subject to editing or rejection, at the Manager's
discretion. For more information, see the FWL page at:
http://www.nativefish.org/Wishlist/index.html. The list will be updated
on the page monthly, and sent out to the NFC Lists monthly.
BPEzine:
The BPEzine list is a Non-Posting list. That is, members of the list
may not post to it. Only myself and Robert Rice may. This list is for
sending out the Breeder's Program E-Magazine. This includes information
on species bred and any other news in the world of the Breeder's
Program. Members of the BP and of NFC in general are encouraged to
join.
OTHER:
Harassment by other means:
You can get a list of all members of any list by sending mail to
Majordomo at actwin_com with the command who <list> in the body. Use of
this list to spam/flame or otherwise bother list members will result in
immediate removal and/or contact to your site admin. The same goes for
just sending mail to someone who's recently posted. Messages of this
nature should be forwarded WITH HEADERS to JLW at pi_dune.net.
Digest and Other Lists:
The volume of this document applies to members of
NFC-Digest at actwin_com and its members,
NFC at actwin_com and its members, and all affiliated sublists.
Correcting the Admin:
The admin, me, is always right. If I say the sky is orange, its
orange. Don't argue with me. :) With all seriousness, this comment
simply means that all decisions by the list administrator are final.
Final Comments:
The list has been more or less flame free, and, aside from some
bizarre situations mostly on topic. We'd like to keep it that way.
Those of you who know me know that I'm a pretty easy going guy. As I've
said before, if you're not out to make a jerk of yourself, you'll be
allright. I'm not out to be a censor, I'm not out to settle disputes,
just try to keep the list a bit happy for everyone. The contents of
this document will be uploaded to
http://www.geocities.com/Josh_Wiegert/nfclregs.txt within the week,
assuming I don't forget.
--
end
____^__
><,Darwin,>
Joshua L. Wiegert
NFC Lists Administrator JLW at pi_dune.net
www.geocities.com/RainForest/Jungle/1680/ owner-nfc at actwin_com
ICQ 69553561 AIM UID: Etheosoma
Feel free to contact me by any of the above means for any reason.
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NFC Lists include the main 'NFC' list, 'NFC-Digest,' 'NFCBreeders' and
the
Fish Wish List (FWL). To subscribe to any of these, e-mail
Majordomo at actwin_com with the command subscribe <listname>. To
unsubscribe, use the command unsubscribe <list>. Help returns a list of
other commands, or feel free to contact me at Owner-NFC at actwin_com. All
lists are @actwin.com. Come join us and chat about our native fishes, or
visit http://www.nativefish.org!
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Rules and Guidelines for The Native Fish Conservancy List and Sublists
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Last Revisions: 18 Septembre 2000.
Revisions: (April) Blended last addendums with document. Corrected spelling and grammatical errors. Added
some ohter ones. Made some comments a little less "harsh." Added remarks on the Articles Page.
Etc. Read the whole thing.
Revisions (Sept) Added section on FWL. Added section under SPAM on NFC Promos. Rewrote cross-post, mostly for clarity. Added BPEzine Section. Removed Articles section.
Contacting List Administrator
The list's administrator is always available at the e-mail address: <list>-owner at actwin_com For the NFC Lists, this is NFC-Owner at actwin_com. Feel free to contact me at this address with suggestions, praise, offers of money, or complaints.
SPAM:
Spam is defined as followed: Any unwelcome commercial posting, or multiple postings of the same materiel. (Such as posting the same message five times.) The following exceptions exist:
-=Relevant=- Articles
Fish Wish List: This is a collective post of people looking for fishes. There is a section for commercial messages. These are run by individuals on the list. Other such units should gain approval from the list manager before posting. See details on FWL below.
Accidental repeats: Your router is lagging, and a message didn't make it through for eight hours. You repeated it. Both got sent. As long as it's obviously not purposeful, it won't get you in trouble.
Auction Stuff: That is fine, as long as it is the NFC auction [so, no, you cannot auction off a date with yourself... and, no, I can't do that either (sorry gals)]
NFC Promotional Stuff: Occassionally, the NFC makes various deals with companies for promotions. Examples of these companies include Amazon.Com, Pets.Com, etc. These companies are NOT permitted, under any circumstances, to send ads, spam or any other such information to NFC List Members without their concent, nor are they permitted to send postings to the lists. However, relevant announcements about these companies and occassional reminders of the promotions with them are permitted.
This Post: The next person out there who tells me I've posted this more than once....
First Offense: Warning.
Second Offense: Suspension from list for time period of administrators discretion.
Third: Permanent removal.
Extremely offensive material may result in immediate and permanent removal. Examples include sex or pornographic advertisements, chain letters, and triangle/pyramid/etc. scams. These will also result in a nice little letter sent to your server's administrator, which may result in revocation of your account there.
SPAM sent from addressed not on the list does not go thru. However, they do create a bounce to the list-owners private account. Any spam traced from a false address back to a list member will result in the above, skipping first offense.
Bluntly, I'm sick and tired of getting a mailbox full of spam, you all don't like it, I don't like it. Especially not when I've already got a ton of it.
FLAMES:
A flame is any insulting or in/flam/atory remark. This is something meant to intentionally anger or upset someone else. This is at the receiving parties and/or list admin.'s discretion.
First and Second Offense: Warnings.
Third and Forth Offense: Suspension for time period of admin. discretion.
Fifth: Removal.
Watch what you say, and you won't get in trouble. Light comments will generally be ignored. Also, remember that there is no tone in writing. "You know, you're a real putz." can be read as insulting or a light, jestful remark.
POSTS:
Keep the material in posts relevant. Some wandering of topics is bound to occur, and will generally be ignored. Keep the politics to a minimum. Completely off topic posts should not be made.
General Offense: Notice to keep on topic to list.
Continued: Warnings.
Regular: Suspension.
Continued Regular: Removal.
An occasional off-topic post is bound to be made, and going to be fine, such as, "Just want the list to know that my wife and I are now expecting our first baby in June!" or "Having a big problem with my beautiful pair of Oscars, anyone help?" or something along that line is fine, as long as it's not a constant thing.
This is discretionary. Yes, it's a fish list. If you have a question about fish that is off topic: You may send it to me at JLW at pi_dune.net. If I can't answer it myself, I'll get it answered, or just make up something that sounds good.
Keep the list relevant. If you are constantly posting irrelevant messages, and so forth, I'm going to just regard it as SPAM and put you under that headline.
General Posting Guidelines:
Please remember that a message sent to NFC at actwin_com reaches more than a hundred people.
Try not to be annoying or offensive. One line posts such as, "I agree!" or "You're wrong" are
meaningless. They're just going to be something to bother other people, especially if you've quoted the four pages of the original message in it and the six replies that came with it. In short, make sure you actually have something to say before you hit send.
Bad Subjects:
Majordomo is weird. It doesn't like it if you send out a message with the word "Subscribe,"
"unsubscribe," or "help" in the subject. We tend to use the word HELP a lot. Fortunately, it now seems Majordomo will forward on messages in which HELP is not the first word. So, instead of sending a message such as "Help Needed With Darters!" change it to "Can anyone help me with darters?" Occassionally, the words placement will be irrelevant, and I just assume you type in something different, such as "Can anyone h*lp me with darters?"
Threads:
A thread is defined as a group of messages of the same topic making up more than three
replies. This is the initial message, a reply, and a reply to that reply. It is not two replies to the same message.
Threads of general interest are permitted on the list. After all, the list is for the members of it.
However, threads tend to dissolve into a conversation between two or three people. If this is the case, it should be taken off-list and brought to just the people involved.
CROSS POSTS:
We've added some new lists, and are back up to a fairly high number. These include NFC, FWL, NFCBreeders, NFCPonds, Adopt-A-Tank, and BPEzine. These lists all have similar topics, but are not identical. Please limit cross posts between them, as well as cross posts between these and non-NFC lists. This means do not send a message to more than one list. Any given message is most likely relevant to only one list, and should be sent there. Sometimes they're relevant to more than one, and you should simply choose the most relevant one.
FWL:
The Fish Wish list, due to the number of defunct ads in it has been redone. The ads are now only posted on the list for three months, at which time the owner of the ad is contacted and asked if he wishes to continue it. Nonmembers may list for free on the list at any time, but are charged a 3$ fee per listing. Members of NFC list for free. Commercial posts are permitted. Generally, they are charged the same non-member fee. However, different fees may apply based on the ad and the discretion of the Manager. Ads submitted MUST be in the format of the list, or will be subject to editing or rejection, at the Manager's discretion. For more information, see the FWL page at: http://www.nativefish.org/Wishlist/index.html. The list will be updated on the page monthly, and sent out to the NFC Lists monthly.
BPEzine:
The BPEzine list is a Non-Posting list. That is, members of the list may not post to it. Only myself and Robert Rice may. This list is for sending out the Breeder's Program E-Magazine. This includes information on species bred and any other news in the world of the Breeder's Program. Members of the BP and of NFC in general are encouraged to join.
OTHER:
Harassment by other means:
You can get a list of all members of any list by sending mail to Majordomo at actwin_com with the command who <list> in the body. Use of this list to spam/flame or otherwise bother list members will result in immediate removal and/or contact to your site admin. The same goes for just sending mail to someone who's recently posted. Messages of this nature should be forwarded WITH HEADERS to JLW at pi_dune.net.
Digest and Other Lists:
The volume of this document applies to members of NFC-Digest at actwin_com and its members,
NFC at actwin_com and its members, and all affiliated sublists.
Correcting the Admin:
The admin, me, is always right. If I say the sky is orange, its orange. Don't argue with me. :) With all seriousness, this comment simply means that all decisions by the list administrator are final.
Final Comments:
The list has been more or less flame free, and, aside from some bizarre situations mostly on topic. We'd like to keep it that way. Those of you who know me know that I'm a pretty easy going guy. As I've said before, if you're not out to make a jerk of yourself, you'll be allright. I'm not out to be a censor, I'm not out to settle disputes, just try to keep the list a bit happy for everyone. The contents of this document will be uploaded to http://www.geocities.com/Josh_Wiegert/nfclregs.txt within the week,
assuming I don't forget.