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Re: NFC: On the local level how do we proceeed

give em to who you think is right ...



On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:17:21 -0700 Wright Huntley <huntley1 at home_com>
writes:
> Thanks Robert,
> 
> Would it be out of line to give them to my friends and associates at 
> DSAC?
> 
> Wright
> 
> robert a rice wrote:
> > 
> > Wright that was one of the most eloquent responses of the 
> year!!!You win
> > 4 free giveaway NFC memberships thank you and well done :)
> > 
> > Tell me where to send em ...you are the man :)
> > \
> > 
> > Robert Rice
> > Save those Fishes,  Join the Native Fish Conservancy
> > http://www.nativefish.org
> > Love those gartersnakes? visit
> > http://gartersnake.net
> > 
> > >
> > > One catches far more flies with honey than with vinegar. That 
> last
> > > sentence,
> > > above, often sets the stage for initiating another of what has 
> been
> > > a long
> > > string of disasters. The press, the industry, and the 
> politicians
> > > just adore
> > > such things, but the benefit to the natural habitat is rarely
> > > demonstrable.
> > >
> > > Assume the other guy is a bad guy -- not misinformed or 
> ignorant,
> > > but truly
> > > mean-spirited and uncaring. Use political action to bring force
> > > against him.
> > > The interests of the bureaucrat and the interests of the 
> industry
> > > mysteriously find themselves aligned and the exact *opposite* 
> of
> > > the
> > > intended outcome is assured. The poor conservationists who 
> started
> > > the
> > > process are dismayed at how much worse things have gotten and 
> clamor
> > > for use
> > > of even more force. If your objective is building a police 
> state, it
> > > may be
> > > a fairly good plan. If you are interested in species 
> preservation,
> > > it is,
> > > based on many results, one of the worst.
> > >
> > > I would prefer to never see another "Kill the Pupfish" bumper
> > > sticker, that
> > > was the direct result of uncaring and insensitive bureaucrats 
> and
> > > conservationists bent on ripping off the private property of 
> someone
> > > who
> > > bought and paid for it.
> > >
> > > My suggested alternative approach is to become very sure of your
> > > facts about
> > > the threatened habitat. Get to know the state wildlife 
> biologists.
> > > Spend a
> > > bit of time also learning about the industry involved and what 
> their
> > > (both
> > > management and shareholders) problems and motives really are. 
> Then
> > > do a
> > > friendly and reasoned job of teaching the folks in that company
> > > about the
> > > impact they could have, and explore *with them* things that 
> could
> > > provide
> > > protection without thwarting the needs of their shareholders.
> > >
> > > Most CEOs would *love* to go to tha annual meeting and say how, 
> for
> > > a cost
> > > less than 1% of sales, they managed to protect this huge area 
> from
> > > the
> > > negative impact of the company's effluent. The shareholders 
> really
> > > dig that
> > > kind of action, if it is based on facts and reason, and if it 
> makes
> > > their
> > > company a better citizen of the community where they operate.
> > >
> > > You can help them get into a posture that shields them from 
> future
> > > harrassment and law suits, while getting the blind crayfish and
> > > snails a
> > > stout long-term protector in the person of a well-run and 
> profitable
> > > company
> > > that already owns their habitat or water source. You don't do 
> it
> > > with a chip
> > > on your shoulder. You do it with true caring and attempts to
> > > understand the
> > > best way to achieve everyone's goals.
> > >
> > > If that approach fails, the Nature Conservacy has been able to 
> help
> > > such
> > > situations in many areas of the world. Contact them and see 
> what
> > > their
> > > approach might be.
> > >
> > > A tiny group of hobbyists starting from the Bay Area Killifish 
> Assn.
> > > and
> > > expanding from there has been instrumental in establishing a
> > > wonderful
> > > relationship with many ranchers and others (like the power 
> company
> > > for Las
> > > Vegas) of central and southern Nevada. Go read about the Desert
> > > Springs
> > > Action Committee at:
> > >
> > > http://www.tkphotos.com/DSAC/index.htm .
> > >
> > > One of the last resident ranchers in Ash Meadow Wildlife 
> Preserve,
> > > site of
> > > the original Devil's Hole Pupfish "fight," routinely has us 
> over
> > > for, or
> > > joins our barbeque on our work trips there each fall. He, BTW, 
> was
> > > instrumental in getting Nature Conservancy to buy out the more
> > > hostile
> > > ranchers.
> > >
> > > At the above web site, you can follow the links to see one of 
> the
> > > Preston
> > > ranchers giving us tales of the history of Preston NV and the 
> old
> > > water
> > > wars. He's an active supporter of our (and other) conservation
> > > efforts. We
> > > all have fun, educating each other.
> > >
> > > Contrast the relative peace around the springs (nearly all on 
> ranch
> > > sites,
> > > of course) of the lower Nevada desert with what is happening up
> > > around Elko
> > > vis-a-vis a southerly habitat of the Bull Trout. That one was
> > > pursued with
> > > the other method, and after many years is *still* a running 
> disaster
> > > (almost
> > > a war), with the (probably unimportant) fish still virtually
> > > unprotected.
> > >
> > > I guess if anyone wants to fight, that's their right. Just don't 
> try
> > > to
> > > convince many of us, who have been there and done that, it is 
> doing
> > > much
> > > good for the habitat.
> > >
> > > Active conservation is "where it's at," for me.
> > >
> > > YMMV.
> > >
> > > Wright
> > >
> > > --
> > > Wright Huntley, Fremont CA, USA, 510 494-8679  huntleyone at 
> home
> > > dot com
> > >
> > >                 There are two rules for success in life:
> > >              Rule 1: Don't tell people everything you know.
> > >
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> > >
> > 
> > Robert Rice
> > Save those Fishes,  Join the Native Fish Conservancy
> > http://www.nativefish.org
> > Love those gartersnakes? visit
> > http://gartersnake.net
> 
> -- 
> Wright Huntley, Fremont CA, USA, 510 494-8679  huntleyone at home 
> dot com
> 
>                 There are two rules for success in life:
>              Rule 1: Don't tell people everything you know.
> 
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> 


Robert Rice
Save those Fishes,  Join the Native Fish Conservancy
http://www.nativefish.org
Love those gartersnakes? visit
http://gartersnake.net