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Re: NFC: Fish News

From:           	robertrice at juno_com
To:             	nfc at actwin_com
Date sent:      	Sun, 6 Feb 2000 16:30:23 -0500
Subject:        	Re: NFC: Fish News
Send reply to:  	nfc at actwin_com

fair enough, robert.

as a deep ecologist, i think fish have as much right to exist as 
people, and so i share some of the goals of PETA. however, i do 
not believe it is healthy in our civil society to use the aggressive 
measures PETA often does to achieve its goals. that is to say, 
were they to use insulting language, i would call them on it, in 
exactly the same way i called members of this list to task.

and i think the predator/prey relationship is not an unethical one. 
when done with respect and mindfulness.

anyway, thanks for your reasonable response.

art goodtimes


> Art,
> 
> This is a public list and as such as long as you remain within its rules
> people are allowed to say what they want about PETA. Foul language is off
> course out of bounds as are personal insults.
> 
> I agree it is best to remain civil in disucssions , PETA seems to rile
> even the most placid individual . So no dispariging comments are not
> normal operating procedure. 
> 
> Now if PETA members were on this list (they have been in the past)
> believe me the term chick would be the nicest thing they would call most
> of the readers of this list. 
> 
> So just thought you'd like to know when it comes to PETA people get
> upset. On the good side this open forum gives people with all backgrounds
> the oppourtunity to share and learn about native fish and IMO the benifits
> far outweigh any occassional social offences. 
> 
> 
> Robert Rice
> Join the NFC and help save our fishes.   http://www.nativefish.org/  
> 
> <*)))))< Check out the Adopt A Tank and Breeders Program
> 
> 
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:10:00 -0700 goodtimes at independence_net writes:
> > From:           	"D. Martin Moore" 
> > <archimedes at master_localink4.com>
> > To:             	nfc at actwin_com
> > Date sent:      	Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:50:01 -0600
> > Subject:        	Re: NFC: Fish News
> > Send reply to:  	nfc at actwin_com
> > 
> > > Perhaps "bimbo" would have been more appropriate...  IMO, PETA 
> > > types earn whatever disparaging appelation we deem appropriate.
> > > 
> > > > i find the term "chick" sexist in this context. if this an 
> > example of
> > > > the fish news level of analysis, then i will drop this listserv
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Prost,
> > > 
> > > Martin
> > > ------
> > > "Cry to it, nuncle. as the cockney did to the eels when she put 
> > > 'em i' the paste alive; she knapped 'em o' the coxcombs with a
> > > stick, and cried 'Down wantons, down!'"
> > > 
> > 
> > perhaps in some circles such disparagement would be appropriate, 
> > but in a public listserv like this, i continue to find it 
> > inappropriate, at 
> > best.
> > 
> > can others on this listserv let me know if this is SOP for this 
> > list?
> > 
> > lack of respect for opponents seems an unfortunate public face to 
> > offer on the web.
> > 
> > art goodtimes
> > 
> > Art Goodtimes
> > president of the Telluride Institute
> > vice-president, Colorado Counties, Inc.'s Western District
> > member, Club 20 Board
> > member, USFS Painted Sky Resource & Conservation Development Board
> > member, BLM's Southwest Colorado Regional Advisory Council
> > member, National Association of Counties' Public Lands Steering 
> > Committee
> 
> Robert Rice
> Join the NFC and help save our fishes.   http://www.nativefish.org/  
> 
> <*)))))< Check out the Adopt A Tank and Breeders Program
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