Re: [Live-foods] Live-Foods Digest, Vol 47, Issue 3

[David Lains <davidlains at gmail_com>]

Hi Scott

No the offspring were random and likely due to the condition of the  
adult animal.  The population just had a large batch of babies so  
only some of the females were ready.

All I need was to know cloramx was doing it's job and not hurting the  
bugs.

What we should look at is the dose and how long a culture goes before  
getting to foul.  With fish you can dose up to 10x safely so if you  
pushed the amquel dose maybe you can get the culture denser by  
binding the ammonia.  This is the principle the rotifer machines work  
on.

I'm actually considering putting little sponge filters and snails in  
the jugs to keep the water quality up.

The food I use are very rich and there is a very fine line between  
speeding up the culture and crashing it.

Best fishes
David
www.goldfishgarage.com



On Nov 25, 2008, at 6:50 PM, Scott Davis wrote:

> Thank you for taking the trouble to try those combinations. Is  
> there any correlation between a high or low CloramX level and  
> dropped offspring?
>
> Since that is set up, could a little greenwater be added and the  
> young counted in a day or so? Easy for me to ask, you are doing the  
> work. :)
>
> Thanks and all the best!
> Scott
>
> --- On Tue, 11/25/08, David Lains <david at zebrafish_org> wrote:
> From: David Lains <david at zebrafish_org>
> Subject: Re: [Live-foods] Live-Foods Digest, Vol 47, Issue 3
> To: "'Live foods for aquarium fish'" <live-foods at actwin_com>
> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 1:24 PM
>
> Hello
>
> CloramX does not kill Daphnia magna in my soft water.
>
> Well 1 got 1 ml (100% of solution)  LIVE 4 offspring
> Well 2 got a finger tip of dry powder Dead along with 2 off spring.  I
> suspect a similar amount of salt would have killed them too.
> Well 3 got .1 ml Living
> well 4 got .2 ml Living
> well 5 got .3 ml Living
> well 6 got .4 ml Living
> well 7 got .5 ml Living
> well 8 got .6 ml Living but slow (maybe an old daphnia)
> well 9 got .7 ml Living
>
> About half of the cells have a few offspring in them.
>
> Best fishes
> David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: live-foods-bounces at actwin_com [mailto:live-foods- 
> bounces at actwin_com]
> On Behalf Of David Lains
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:45 PM
> To: Live foods for aquarium fish
> Subject: Re: [Live-foods] Live-Foods Digest, Vol 47, Issue 3
>
> Hi Lee
>
> I'm wondering if your info on amquel killing daphnia was for amquel
> plus or someone was using amquel but did something else to kill their
> culture.  I'd say 1/2 of the facts on the net are derived this way.
> I did this and that and it kill them...  must of be the "This" that
> did it.
>
> I put 9 Daphnia magna each in one ml wells.  Made up a solution of
> cloramX that was 1 teaspoon per gallon.  The first well got 100% new
> solution, the next was culture water and I dipped my wet finger in
> the powder and put that much in the well.
>
> For the rest of the wells I added the following about of solution and
> enough culture water to fill the well to 1 ml.
>
> Well 3 got .1 ml
> well 4 got .2 ml
> well 5 got .3 ml
> well 6 got .4 ml
> well 7 got .5 ml
> well 8 got .6 ml
> well 9 got .7 ml
>
> 3 hours later they are all swimming fine.  The well that I added the
> powder directly to gave birth to two offspring.  Could be due to
> stress from the conductivity change or simply the chemical.
>
> I'll run this out to one day and report the results.
>
> Best fishes
> David
> www.goldfishgarage.com
>
>
> On Nov 23, 2008, at 9:15 AM, LeeH920226 at aol_com wrote:
>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/23/08 12:02:27 PM, live-foods- 
>> request at actwin_com
>> writes:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> CloramX which is the old amquel.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I was told that Amquel killed daphnia.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lee Harper
>> Media, PA
>>
>>
>>
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