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Re: Pantanodon podoxys
>Hello Brian
>Maybe my trio spawned so prolifically that I didn't notice adults eating
>fry, but if they did I still had more fish than I could give away, I
>got my fish indirectly through Jeff Bilbrough, who I know had those fish
>since at least 96 sometime. Where his stock came from I'm not sure, but
>we never had a location attached to the Podoxys and Jeff was very good
>about maintaining population name accuracy. Either way they seemed
>like little dull silver grey fish until you looked at them in the right
>light and then you saw nice blueish sheen to them. But then again the
>only way I saw the fish is when I netted them out to give away or sell
>them to someone who wanted a pair.
>
>John
For the record, the fish that Jeff had were definitely P. podoxys Tanga TAN
95/15 and you can confidently label them as such. You can also let others
who have them know that they can do likewise. Jeff obtained these fish
through me and I, in turn, had obtained them from Brian Watters. I did not
keep these fish myself, but passed them on to Jeff, as he was very much
interested in them. I agree that Jeff was usually, if not always, good
about maintaining location information and I am quite sure that they were
correctly identified when he got them. John, you say that you got them
indirectly through Jeff. It stands to reason that the code was dropped
between Jeff and you.
I can only add to the comments that have been made on the list imploring
people to be careful about location codes and spelling of fish names. As an
indication of how easily these names become corrupted I can relate the
following story. When UNYKA hosted the 98 convention in Syracuse we had the
opporunity to buy a number of new and rare species for the auction. On the
list we that we were provided _N. fuscotaeniatus_ Kitonga South TAN 97/9
was included. The timing was such that these could only be F1s from the
fish collected by Brian, Ruud Wildekamp and myself. The only problem was
that the fish was on the list under FOUR different names - mis-spellings
and corruptions of the correct name. I should have kept a note of them just
to be able to demonstrate how carelessness and illegible labels contribute
to this undoubtedly serious problem in our hobby. Tim Addis earlier asked
how our auctioneers do in catching these mistaken names. The answer, if we
are truthful, is that they are very variable. The reason is that there are
so many species and locations of killies available right now that almost
nobody can be authoritative about ALL of the names. It is up to each one of
us to ensure that we correctly identify the fish that we keep and pass on.
That includes labelling bags clearly. If you are selling fish at an
auction, don't use shorthand. What is obvious to you is not so obvious to
others. If your handwriting is difficult to read, print. Use indelible
markers so that the labels don't become smeared.
I'll end my tirade now. I am a "member-in-training" of the Nomenclature Police.
Barry
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