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hello!
I would like to have some killifish, but nobody carries them in the stores,
for that fact, there is only one pet shop within 45 miles, it's also a bait
shop, so that should tell you something. If anyone ships fish or eggs,
please email me at shamu at halifax_com (I live in Southside VA)
----- Original Message -----
From: KillieTalk Digest <Owner-KillieTalk at AKA_Org>
To: <Owner-KillieTalk at AKA_Org>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 5:28 AM
Subject: KillieTalk Digest V2 #763
>
> KillieTalk Digest Friday, April 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number
763
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> Re: Blue gularis (SJO?)
> Re: killies
> Re: BOUNCE killietalk at aka_org: Non-member submission from ["MikeJacobs"
<mjacobs2 at Tampabay_rr.com>]
> Re: Transportation to convention
> Egg Incubation Problems!!!!
> Re: Transportation to convention
> Re: Egg Incubation Problems!!!!
> To all who ordered!
> Re: Egg Incubation Problems!!!!
> Re: Egg Incubation Problems!!!!
> Re: killies
> Re: killies
>
> See the end of the digest for information on unsubscribing from the
> KillieTalk mailing list and on how to retrieve back issues.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:02:40 +0100
> From: "Andy's LineOne Mail" <andy.skyfox at lineone_net>
> Subject: Re: Blue gularis (SJO?)
>
> Bob,
>
> Many thanks for the input - it sounds as though I may have a few more
months
> production with my original pair, although I am looking to retire them and
> use some of their off-spring anyway.
>
> Rgds,
>
>
> Andy
> BKA 375-05
> Blackpool, Lancs. UK
>
> - ----Original Message-----
> From: RSchwiegerath <critters at sdc_org>
> To: KillieTalk at AKA_Org <KillieTalk at aka_org>
> Date: Friday, March 26, 1999 11:40 PM
> Subject: Blue gularis (SJO?)
>
>
> >
> >
> >To Andy in the UK, etc.,
> >
> >I've been breeding SJO (I assume you mean Fp. sjoestedti , a.k.a.
> >Blue gularis (or is it gularii?) for about 20 years and can only
> >give you an educated guess. I normally don't pay much attention
> >to fertility life, but I'd say good production can be expected
> >from fish of a minimum of 6 months to a maximum of 2 years. A
> >lot depends upon conditions such as health, proper nutrition, and
> >as with most living creatures - the luck of the draw! Finally,
> >I'd say that good egg production can be expected from any pair
> >that looks healthy, regardless of age (after 6 months of course).
> >
> >Tanks,
> >
> >Bob Schwiegerath
> >Socorro, NM USA
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:51:07 -0500
> From: Frederick Carlisle <fcarlisle at juno_com>
> Subject: Re: killies
>
> Debbie,
> Hi, it's Apil now and the weather has moderated. Send me your home
> address and I will get out some fish to you either Monday or Tuesday next
> week. This is of course dependent upon the weather staying warm
> throughout next week. I plan on sending you two pairs of Fp. gardneri
> akure and maybe somethingelse if I have extras left over. BTW, my water
> conditions here are a straight up pH7.0, 150ppm total hardness, and I
> keep them at RT which for my fishroom is right around 70-72F. Sll of my
> fish are fed frozen bloodworms and brine shrimp as well as whatever live
> food I can provide. I will be awaiting your reply.
>
> Frederick Carlisle
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 19:57:22 PST "Debbie Moore" <dmoore57 at hotmail_com>
> writes:
> >Please Help me. I cannot find any killies around. Is ther a mail order
> >
> >that I can purchase eggs from? I would apprecite any and all help you
> >
> >can give me. I live in Western Ky.
> >
> >
> >
> >Sincereley yours,
> >
> >Debbie
> >
> >dmoore57 at hotmail_com
> >
> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
> "You don't need a good memory if you tell the truth. "
> Gov. Elect Jesse Ventura
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:34:38 -0600
> From: William Vannerson <William_Vannerson at ama-assn_org>
> Subject: Re: BOUNCE killietalk at aka_org: Non-member submission from
["MikeJacobs" <mjacobs2 at Tampabay_rr.com>]
>
> >>I keep going to the Convention Web Site waiting for the
> tickets for the "Jerry Springer Show" to be availiable.........what
> gives.................???..... ;-)<<
>
> Hey. You know how internal club squabbles can get ugly. Half the
committee wants Springer but the other half wants Oprah. I say we
comprimise with Geraldo. <s>
>
>
>
> Bill Vannerson
> McHenry, IL
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/william_vannerson
>
!
> !
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:11:53 -0500 (EST)
> From: R Frank Louden <flouden at netusa1_net>
> Subject: Re: Transportation to convention
>
> Whenever I have flown into Chicago at Ohare, I have been advised to
> take a Limo. It's a flat $25 fee and if there is more than one going
> to the same place I think it is a bit cheaper.
>
> I have always been advised to NOT take a taxi.
>
> +-----------------+------------+---------------------------------------+
> | R. Frank Louden | AKA #07581 | e-mail: flouden at netusa1_net |
> | | | HomePage: www.netusa1.net/~flouden |
> +-----------------+------------+---------------------------------------+
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:32:23 PST
> From: "Sock Monkey" <mrsockmonkey at hotmail_com>
> Subject: Egg Incubation Problems!!!!
>
> Hi, I have run into some egg incubations problems. I am spawning F.
> garderni, They are breeding in a 5.5 gallon tank, and I gather about 20
> eggs a week. Now, so far I have tryed keeping the eggs in a 1 gallon
> giant beakrer I have. The beaker has Acriflavine and is heated at 70-75
> F. The water is good, but there is no filter. I have gotten eggs to
> develope, I see the eyes of the fry. However, I can not get free
> swimming fry. What? They seem to die in the egg, never being able to get
> out. PLEASE HELP!!!!
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:33:45 -0600
> From: Ken Mysliwiec <magilla at interaccess_com>
> Subject: Re: Transportation to convention
>
> William Vannerson wrote:
>
> > Ken (a.k.a. Magilla) has found a shuttle service from O'Hare to Midway.
From Midway you can take the Oak Lawn Hilton shuttle to the hotel. I can't
remember the cost of the O'Hare - Midway shuttle, but it wasn't too much.
> >
> > He tried to find out if the shuttle could make a stop at the hotel on
it's way to Midway but licensing restrictions prevent them from doing that.
:-(
> >
> > Ken has forwarded the info for inclusion in the BNL. Plus he monitors
the list so I'm sure he'll chime in with the details.
> >
> > Bill Vannerson
> > McHenry, IL
> > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/william_vannerson
>
> Hi All,
> When Arlene sends out convention confirmations she includes a brochure
from Tri State Coach.
> The cost is $12.00 and they are located in the transportation center at
O'Hare.
> Ken M.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:51:11 -0800
> From: william f carlisle <fcarlisle at juno_com>
> Subject: Re: Egg Incubation Problems!!!!
>
> I used to have the same problem with my gar eggs when I was incubating
> with acroflavin. My gold gar would develop and eye up nicely, but then
> would simply never hatch. Yes, I tried the carbon dioxide method and
> microworm force hatching method but it simply did nothing to solve the
> problem.
>
> I knew the fish were capable of producing fertile eggs because if I
> didn't collect eggs for a couple weeks period I'd have fry in the parents
> tank. So I decided to water incubate in the absence of acriflavin. I lose
> a few eggs now due to fungus, but I generally police my hatching
> containers so it is not too bad. Now I collect eggs into freezer
> containers under an inch to 2 inch of water and check them every other
> day for fungus. If any turn white I pipet them out and normally they
> hatch without incident now.
>
> Frederick Carlisle
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:40:56 -0500
> From: "William Wasserman" <williame at surfree_com>
> Subject: To all who ordered!
>
> To all who ordered!
> If the current weather holds I will be shipping all orders for eggs and
> killies on Monday the 5th of April. There are too many orders to write
> separately. If there is any problem, please let me know before Monday.
> Happy Holidays to all!
> Remembering our troops over seas...
> William Wasserman
> http://www.arrowweb.com/will/eclecticden.htm
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:19:20 -0800
> From: Wright Huntley <huntley1 at home_com>
> Subject: Re: Egg Incubation Problems!!!!
>
> I've had the same problem. Acriflavin just sometimes seems to toughen the
> chorion to the point they can't hatch.
>
> I now use a *very* weak mix of methylene blue and acriflavin on "must
keep"
> eggs. It is only enough to tint the water a very pale green, and I do
succesive
> daily water changes until it is visibly gone. If the egg container has a
little
> peat or Java moss, those tend to soak up the dyes pretty well, too.
>
> The sprig of Java moss is a pretty good antibacterial by itself. It
appears that
> the filter-feeders like rotifers and other infusoria that it carries do a
great
> job of sucking all free-floating bacteria out of the water.
>
> Wright
>
> - --
> Wright Huntley, Fremont CA, USA, 510 494-8679 huntley1 at home dot com
>
> Libertarians prefer to do it free!
> http://www.self-gov.org/libertarianism.html
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 23:25:36 -0500
> From: George Slusarczuk <yurko at warwick_net>
> Subject: Re: Egg Incubation Problems!!!!
>
> Hello Frederick,
>
> Eggs incubated in acriflavine-containing water should be removed to
> plain water as soon as a hint of pigmentation appears.
>
> That way one gets the benefit of a fungicide and full egg development in
> plain water, which sometimes aids hatching.
>
> The need for fungicide varies from one water supply to another. It may
> be that your water source is relatively fungus-free. I have lived with
> three different water systems and the need for acriflavine varied from
> "almost not needed" to "no dice without it".
>
> Best,
>
> George
>
>
>
> >
> > I used to have the same problem with my gar eggs when I was incubating
> > with acroflavin. My gold gar would develop and eye up nicely, but then
> > would simply never hatch. Yes, I tried the carbon dioxide method and
> > microworm force hatching method but it simply did nothing to solve the
> > problem.
> >
> > I knew the fish were capable of producing fertile eggs because if I
> > didn't collect eggs for a couple weeks period I'd have fry in the
parents
> > tank. So I decided to water incubate in the absence of acriflavin. I
lose
> > a few eggs now due to fungus, but I generally police my hatching
> > containers so it is not too bad. Now I collect eggs into freezer
> > containers under an inch to 2 inch of water and check them every other
> > day for fungus. If any turn white I pipet them out and normally they
> > hatch without incident now.
> >
> > Frederick Carlisle
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 21:41:12 PST
> From: "Debbie Moore" <dmoore57 at hotmail_com>
> Subject: Re: killies
>
> Frederick. here is my address
> Debbie Moore
> 412 East Drive
> Fulton, Ky 42041
> phone number is 502-472-3441
> Please e-mail me the day that you mail. I will be anxiously awaiting
> their arrival. I work from 4;00 to 10;00 pm Mon thru Sat. I scan this
> site for messages usually at 8;30am and as soon as I get home. Thank you
> so very much. I truely appreciate your kindness.
> Debbie
> dmoore57 at hotmail_com
>
>
>
> >From: Frederick Carlisle <fcarlisle at juno_com>
> >Reply-To: killietalk at aka_org
> >To: killietalk at aka_org
> >Subject: Re: killies
> >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:51:07 -0500
> >
> >Debbie,
> >Hi, it's Apil now and the weather has moderated. Send me your home
> >address and I will get out some fish to you either Monday or Tuesday
> next
> >week. This is of course dependent upon the weather staying warm
> >throughout next week. I plan on sending you two pairs of Fp. gardneri
> >akure and maybe somethingelse if I have extras left over. BTW, my water
> >conditions here are a straight up pH7.0, 150ppm total hardness, and I
> >keep them at RT which for my fishroom is right around 70-72F. Sll of my
> >fish are fed frozen bloodworms and brine shrimp as well as whatever
> live
> >food I can provide. I will be awaiting your reply.
> >
> >Frederick Carlisle
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 19:57:22 PST "Debbie Moore" <dmoore57 at hotmail_com>
> >writes:
> >>Please Help me. I cannot find any killies around. Is ther a mail order
> >>
> >>that I can purchase eggs from? I would apprecite any and all help you
> >>
> >>can give me. I live in Western Ky.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Sincereley yours,
> >>
> >>Debbie
> >>
> >>dmoore57 at hotmail_com
> >>
> >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
> >"You don't need a good memory if you tell the truth. "
> >Gov. Elect Jesse Ventura
>
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:51:54 -0800
> From: "R. Scott Page" <rs_page at owt_com>
> Subject: Re: killies
>
> Excuse me folks.
> I think this is far more information than you want to send on a public
> mailing list. If I have to explain why you don't want your address and
work
> hours posted then you probably wouldn't understand. <grin> I'm not poking
> at anyone in particular - just think I need to remind everyone to think
> twice about whether the mail we send is for the group consumption or for
an
> individual. I have noticed several notices lately that were directed to
one
> individual, but we all got to witness the transaction take place. Nuff
> said. Please don't flame. No offense was intended. I only said this for
> your protection.
>
> Tanks alot,
> R. Scott Page
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Debbie Moore <dmoore57 at hotmail_com>
> To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 9:41 PM
> Subject: Re: killies
>
>
> > Frederick. here is my address
> > Debbie Moore
> > 412 East Drive
> > Fulton, Ky 42041
> > phone number is 502-472-3441
> > Please e-mail me the day that you mail. I will be anxiously awaiting
> > their arrival. I work from 4;00 to 10;00 pm Mon thru Sat. I scan this
> > site for messages usually at 8;30am and as soon as I get home. Thank you
> > so very much. I truely appreciate your kindness.
> > Debbie
> > dmoore57 at hotmail_com
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Frederick Carlisle <fcarlisle at juno_com>
> > >Reply-To: killietalk at aka_org
> > >To: killietalk at aka_org
> > >Subject: Re: killies
> > >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:51:07 -0500
> > >
> > >Debbie,
> > >Hi, it's Apil now and the weather has moderated. Send me your home
> > >address and I will get out some fish to you either Monday or Tuesday
> > next
> > >week. This is of course dependent upon the weather staying warm
> > >throughout next week. I plan on sending you two pairs of Fp. gardneri
> > >akure and maybe somethingelse if I have extras left over. BTW, my water
> > >conditions here are a straight up pH7.0, 150ppm total hardness, and I
> > >keep them at RT which for my fishroom is right around 70-72F. Sll of my
> > >fish are fed frozen bloodworms and brine shrimp as well as whatever
> > live
> > >food I can provide. I will be awaiting your reply.
> > >
> > >Frederick Carlisle
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 19:57:22 PST "Debbie Moore" <dmoore57 at hotmail_com>
> > >writes:
> > >>Please Help me. I cannot find any killies around. Is ther a mail order
> > >>
> > >>that I can purchase eggs from? I would apprecite any and all help you
> > >>
> > >>can give me. I live in Western Ky.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Sincereley yours,
> > >>
> > >>Debbie
> > >>
> > >>dmoore57 at hotmail_com
> > >>
> > >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> > >
> > >"You don't need a good memory if you tell the truth. "
> > >Gov. Elect Jesse Ventura
> >
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
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