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Re: KillieTalk Digest V2 #398



Dear Snail hater,

You might want to try some of the apple snails - they lay eggs out of the water,
are easy to remove from the tank sides and people will pay good money for the egg
cases and/or the baby snails.  I've seen sane (?) people pay up to $10 for 6 or 8
young albino apple snails about a dime in size.  Failing that, send they down to
Louisiana where they will eat them.  Who knows they may be worth more there.

KillieTalk Digest wrote:

> KillieTalk Digest     Tuesday, September 15 1998     Volume 02 : Number 398
>
> In this issue:
>
>         Alum
>         Re: KillieTalk Digest V2 #397
>         German page -Reply
>
> See the end of the digest for information on unsubscribing from the
> KillieTalk mailing list and on how to retrieve back issues.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:42:43 -0400
> From: "John M. Burns" <jmburns at pressroom_com>
> Subject: Alum
>
> >From: Chris Graseck@LUDL on 09/14/98 07:46 AM
>
> >Can anyone give me the proper procedure for using Alum for "sterilizing"
> >live plants and if so can you also let me know where Alum can be purchased.
>
> I HATES snails.... because they breed so much.  If I could sterilize a few
> I't love to have them in some tanks, but they take over so easily.  And
> I've had a few massive spawns that wiped tanks out and I've run into some
> types that overwhelm plants with egg sacs, so I've gotten really good at
> killing them.  Here's what I do:
>
> Alum, USP, available from drug stores (chemists).  $US about $2.70 for 4
> ounces (roughly 210 grams).  10 level teaspoons/gallon of water (roughly 1
> ounce/gallon, if you weight it).  Adults die quickly and usually float to
> the surface of the water where you can net them out.  If you want to get
> the eggs, you've got to leave the plant in the alum water for about 3 days
> with good water circulation [especially if plant is attached to wood or in
> pot] so you get all the nooks and crannies (I usually go 4-5 days, I HATES
> snails).  Plants should be rinsed in clean water, lots of it, after an alum
> treatment as residual alum (aluminum) will precitate anything around.  You
> need to get rid of it.  Killed egg sacs wil disintigrate over a period of a
> few weeks.   If you really HATES snails, you can follow up with a 10 minute
> potassium permangenate dunk at 10 mg KMNO4/gallon.  Again, rinse with lots
> of clean water.  KMNO4 kills eggs, not adults.  KMNO4 will also stain
> things, so do in a utility bucket you don't care about.  These are radical
> procedures for those who HATES snails.  Fragile plants probably won't take
> the 3 days in alum, but may handle the KMNO4.  In either case, stressed
> plants should be given a chance to recover before treatment.  If you use
> just KMNO4, pick all the adults out manually.  Your milage may vary, so try
> out on samplig of plants before you dive in over your head.  Use quarantine
> tanks.  I HATES snails.
>
> DO NOT DO THESE THINGS WITH FISH IN THE WATER!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:53:43 EDT
> From: BigMat55 at aol_com
> Subject: Re: KillieTalk Digest V2 #397
>
> I would like to obtain starter cultures of microworms, grindal worms, and
> vinegar eels with which to feed some fry and young I hope to hatch from some
> eggs a friend sent recently.  Are there any dry foods that will work
> effectively for this?
>
> Someone recently mentioned brewers yeast, will that work as a first food for
> fry?
>
> Killie Newbie,
> Mike
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:24:43 -0500
> From: William Vannerson <William_Vannerson at ama-assn_org>
> Subject: German page -Reply
>
> >>One additional question: Does anyone know of a
> pronunciation guide to the most common killie genera?<<
>
> Donna Recktenwalt wrote a great article on this subject titled _Say It!
> Understand It! _.  It's on the Greater Cincinnati Killifish Association's web
> site at:
>
> http://pages.prodigy.com/WHNJ49B/sayit.htm
>
> Bill Vannerson
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/william_vannerson
>
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>
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