>>Foam-insulated boxes are sold by HTTP://www.polyfoam.com/<< Magilla posted a message a few weeks back where they were giving killie keepers a discount (10%???). Magilla (magilla at interacess_com) know the name of the sales person to contact iff you're interested. Bill Vannerson McHenry, IL USA http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/william_vannerson