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Re: KillieTalk Digest V2 #308
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From: JVanrompu at aol_com <JVanrompu at aol_com>
To: KillieTalk at aka_org <KillieTalk at aka_org>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: KillieTalk Digest V2 #308
>>Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 01:38:37 +0100
>>From: "John De Luca" <John at johndeluca_force9.co.uk>
>>Subject: Re Where do all the fish go
>
>>I response to Ted Klotz statement on disposing of young fish
>>that he has, he mentions C. Magnificus. I agree with his point
>>about trying to sell them for a fair price, or nobody seems
>>interested?
>>When C. Magnificus first came up for sale within the B.K.A.
>>they were fetching around =A325 a pair, by the next year, they
>>were only fetching =A31 per pair.
>>This seems to be a pattern when you are rearing young Killies,
>>when they are ready for selling, you tend to flood the auction,
>>and prices will drop and sometimes you can't give them away!
>>My answer to this is, only auction small amounts at one time,
>>but this doe's not solve the problem for us who still have tanks
>>full of them in our fish houses/rooms, what do we do with them?
>
>The above seem to reflect the rules of supply and demand.
>Are you in the hobby to propogate the species and distribute them, or in it
>to make some money?
If I was in it for the money I would have quit a long time ago!
>There is another option you forgot to mention, once you have recouped your
>initial outlay why not give them away to other interested hobbyists. Many
>people do this out of the kindness of their hearts. I have never denied any
>one in my fish room free fish if they wanted them.
It is easy to see that you have never been in my fishroom. No one leaves
emptyhanded,unless they wish to .
Is this not what the
>maintenance and keeping and breeding of these fish is all about, IT SEEMS
THAT
>THE MOTTO OF EVERY INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION IS THE MAINTENANCE AND
>PROPOGATION AND DISTRIBUTION WITHIN THE HOBBY, if this means that you only
>recoup your costs so be it..
>If their is an oversupply slow down your breeding setup.
You never know when they will hatch and when they won't.
>
>>One of my Killie friends sells his excess to local fish shops,
>>personally I would never do this, my reasons for this are, why
>>should we pay a membership to support a specialist organisation,
>>to let others who are not willing to join reap the benefits,
>
>When I got interested in killies it was by buying a pair of Riv. Holmiae in
a
>pet store,
>I took the fish home and they spawned, within months I had several hundred
of
>these fish. At this time I had no knowledge of any killi associations. I
went
>back to this pet shop and later managed to order some A. Australe. After
this
>my interest grew and I started to investigate where I could get more
Killies
>and low and behold I found the AKA and JOINED. After this I attended almost
>every convention in the next ten years, showed fish at several shows and
had a
>three year stint of being in the BOT, I was also one of the founding
members
>of the Canadian Killifish Assoc., it's editor and treasurer for 5 years.
>SO I WOULD SAY THAT ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS GREATLY REAPED SOME BENEFITS
FROM
>A LAYMAN BUYING SOME KILLIES IN A PET SHOP.
>By not selling your excess killies or giving them away you are probably
>limiting the existance of your association and unfortunately your may
actually
>be damaging it.
John, I have responded to the statements that I made, the rest of this post
were not my statements.
Ted Klotz
9969 Bethel Rd
Remsen,NY 13438
(315) 831-5682