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Re: Where'd all the fish go? -Reply
>>>The BNL is a good place to see listings for Blue Gularis, Fp. gardneri,
>C. whitei, N. guentheri.<<
>I would postulate that the BNL is a good place to list species for which
>you have a lot of availability. Given the lead time required to place the
>then have it distributed, many listers may only place the more common
>species in their fish rooms. Also, if the species is rare, they may be
>reluctant to advertise it so they don't have to deal with answering the
>phone for a high demand fish that they don't have enough fish or eggs to
And believe me the phone does ring. Many people on the west coast seem to
forget that us Yankees go to bed 3 hours earlier than they do. I've had the
phone ring at midnight long after I've put my tired butt down for the
The problem then becomes , you must answer it. it might be an emergency.
This problem is also why species maintenance programs have historically had
problems. People won't lisy what they have simply because they don't want
these phone calls.
>Granted, this does not address the far more common issue of fish just
>disappearing because there are not enough folks interested in them in
>order to keep them in the hobby, as is the case with the many nothos
>Brian was referencing.
>>>Maybe AKA should declare moratorium on new imports in the N&RS
>tanks at the convention<<
>A moratorium would be counter-productive. After all, this is a hobby for
>most and if the new rare import is what appeals to a person and their
>purse-strings, then they should have the "right" to follow their hobby.
>Maybe the "Rare" should stress more "rare in the hobby," non-imports.
>Aside from Brian's list on the AKA web site, I don't think that there's a
>similar source of species status available.
I must step in here. Tom Grady has been trying to put some reports out by
groups, in the BNL. I believe he has covered "Roloffia" and Epiplatys so
Response has been minimal however. I sincerely hope he keeps doing this and
people begin to respond. Perhaps I could have him post these on the web site
Those "in the know" and
>follow events and auctions, read the BNL, etc., will be able to infer
>which species have seemed to have fallen out of the hobby.
A good way to keep track is to keep records of what is listed in the BNL.
Years ago I did this and even wrote an article for JAKA about these trends.
>What's the solution? I don't know if there is one. Aside from education
>and communication to alert hobbyists that a particular species is nearing
>the "out of the hobby" designation. It's still up to individuals desire to
>spend the time and energy to maintain them.
Let's face it we keep certain species because we like them .Take Dr.
Nielson for instance. He kept a Notho for 20 years and about 2 years ago
lost it. I can't remember what it was now. Doc. I'm sure you remember.
When I was on the BOT. I searched for a way to keep people interested in
Species Maintenance. One thought I had was to award people an accumulaitve
scale of points towards the Killie Hobbyist of the year program. In other
words for each successive year you maintained a certain species the more
points you received towards this award.
Doing this would become a record keeping nightmare for the KHY program
chairman. With a "helping" committee , I think this might help the problem.
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