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RE: Mail order killies
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:29:07 -0700
Subject: RE: Mail order killies
Message-ID: <19980702.202909.3830.0.parkbear at juno_com>
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From: parkbear at juno_com (Park Bear)
SEE BELOW
>Christopher J Graseck wrote:
> I have recently received two separate shipments from different breeders
where the >males did not show the same color patterns or intensities that
I have seen on the >specie's photos in both the AKA gallery and the AKA
Killifish Atlas video. I'm not >talking about variation in species here.
First of all I am glad you received the Atlas of Killies tape that I sent
you last week on behalf of the AKA A/V Committee.
Sometimes, photographs of fish can make the fish look better or worse
than real life. A number of factors can contribute to this -- camera,
flash, film speed, type of film, expertise of the photographer, etc.
Also years of inbreeding in some species of fish can produce different
looking fish. A sport or mutation can crop up, like the gold forms of
gardneri, australe, lineatus. It would help if you would mention the
species of killie you purchased.
> I am fairly new to the AKA and do not wish to be labeled as a
complainer but it seems >to me that the code of ethics is being ignored
here.
Don't worry about being labeled a complainer, just do it in a friendly
manner. The code of ethics is part of the benefits of belonging to the
AKA. I encourage you to contact the parties involved and discuss this
matter. Most listers in the BNL will be glad to help, and if not you can
contact the Fish & Egg editor about this, but only after you have
contacted all parties and a solution cannot be agreed upon.
> Do the rest of you out there have similar experiences? Is this type of
thing common >in the AKA? The fish that I am talking about are young but
large enough that they >should be showing adult color patterns and
intensities (1 3/4" Aphyosemions).
I have never had a bad experience yet, but I know others have. I
encourage you to go to a local club. I don't know where you are located
in NY, but I know there are at least three good clubs in NY state. Most
clubs have an auction and you will have an opportunity to see the fish
before you decide to bid on them.
> My apartment is a little on the warm side (80F) so that could explain
some of the lack >of color intensity. The fish are all basically healthy.
They are all laying eggs and eating
>everything that I give them but they are no things of beauty!
Depending on the fish you purchased and knowing that the fish you
purchased are Aphyosemions, most do not like temperatures near or at
eigthy. They will become stressed and their colors will wash out. When
I lived in the desert my fishroom would reach eighty every summer and my
fish were clearly stressed and sometimes they would die. I could not
keep diapterons at all.
Again, please contact the sellers and by all means don't get discouraged.
Try to get to one of the NY killie clubs. Also, I know there are plenty
of breeders on this list that will send you some fish and most for only
the price of shipping. Contact me off line and I would be willing to
send you some eggs.
Hope this helps,
Park Bear
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