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Sex ratio manipulation in Nothos



Mike Bleakley wrote that he was interested in the results of Francisco 
Casado's sex ratio experiments with Nothos and ask if others have 
investigated this theory.

Mike, I'm currently doing effectively the same thing but I'm doing it with 
species of the A. elegans complex (also throw in a few Fundulopanchax and 
Pachypanchax).  It is too early for me to draw any conclusions, but from the 
few that have sexed out, I feel it is not a solution for Aphyosemions.  
Having said that, if I had a rare species that I was in danger of loosing, I 
would try segegrating the fry two by two.  The first indications are that 
there may be a very slight increase in pair ratios.

The one species I have some data on is A. chaytori SL93/34 (7 sets) and they 
are turning out in most cases as pairs (2 pairs and 1 double male), however 
this species is new to me and I am not sure that they have a skewed sex 
ratio to begin with.  I should have a better feel when the other 4 sets sex 
out.  I previously had one batch of 5 fry raised together and they were 3m 
and 2 f.  Hardly indicative numbers imho!

I currently have A. christyi (7 sets), A. rectogoense (8 sets), A. cognatum 
(2 sets) A. congicum (1 set) and A. schioetzi (3 sets) coming along, plus 
about 150 eggs of various species incubating and I expect to conclude my 
tests about mid-March or early-April.  If the results are significant, I 
will submit them to JAKA, if not I'll keep quite and just move on to the 
next project.

One of the problems working with the elegans complex is getting sufficient 
numbers of eggs to generate a meaningful data set.  I have further increased 
the problem by running sets of 1, 2, 3, and batches of fry.  I consider 4 or 
more to be a batch.

Mike, I'm not sure any of this has any meaning for a Notho breeder and there 
are still other factors that need to be investigated if a serious look is 
going to be given into this gender ratio imbalance problem.  Some work has 
already been done by researchers but most of the studies are in other 
genera/families of fish.

Fry Population Density - (that is what we are looking at here) Not aware of           
any studies until this one by Francisco Casado.

pH (or water chemistry in total) Rubin,D.A. Copeia, 1985 pp233-235.(pH only)

Temperature Sullivan,J.A. & R.J.Schultz, Evolution, 40(1),1986 pp152-158
            Conover,D.O. & B.E.Kynard, Science 213 July 31,1981 pp577-579

Frequency-Dependent Selection Conover,D.O. & D.A.Van Voorhees, Science 250                                     
Dec. 14, 1990 pp1556-1557.

Age of Parents - Not aware of any studies.

Then one would have to look at all of the above factors in ralation to eggs.  
Perhaps, while it is generally felt that fish gender is determined after 
hatching(There is supposedly some work done on sex ratio by commercial 
fisheries however I find no citations of these studies.), there is a need 
for adequate proof of this.

Now after all that, I have a question, does anyone have a reasonable 
explaination for the basis of this theory of getting pairs by separating the 
fry at birth?

Joe Weber