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Re: [Killietalk] Shipping eggs



Amen Ken. i am always disappointed when I receive eggs that say wet in 6 mos.. We will all have better success if we hold and examine before shipping. If we think this is asking too much, raise the price. Joe in Al.
On Mar 10, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Ken wrote:

Kyle, et all
Karl is right, while I've got about 1/2 my species via mail...it doesn't
count the other 20+ attempts that failed or nearly so...I've sold and
received eggs on Aquabid, so God only knows how many duds I sold...

Personally, I've sent out eggs to 3-4 people "mid-winter"...I'm not sure what the results were, but I treated them like fish: heat pack, clean water, air and a insulated package...I use that method because eggs I've received in that manner have a much higher hatch 5 than the ole peat in an envelope
thing

Thing is, the mailing environment isn't always the culprit...obviously our skills vary at shipping prowess, and that "universally" applied shipping
method of sticking eggs in peat, and thence into an envelop is IMHO
guaranteed to yield poor or at best "so so" results for many aphyosemions at
least, esp. over long distances....

I guess perhaps my stint in killies isn't long enough to have credibility to criticize this method or that, all I know is aphy eggs in peat and thence in
an envelop might be a inexpensive/easy shipping method, but IMHO is
certainly a subpar method for certain species (especially using "fresh"
eggs)

....whomever keeps advocating this method outta put a strong disclaimer on
it at least...


2cents KC (orig content left below on purpose)


-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces at actwin_com [mailto:killietalk- bounces at actwin_com]
On Behalf Of Karl Doering
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:46 PM
To: kyle stark; killifish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Shipping eggs

Dont deal in eggs. Though the mail it is a crap shoot.Un less you need the
money & not any fish friends. Mail fish if they make it alive your
obligation is done.I dont mail eggs if i can hand deliver them thats ok. I'm

speaking with almost 40 years of experience
----- Original Message -----
From: "kyle stark" <kylestark at earthlink_net>
To: <killietalk at actwin_com>
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Shipping eggs


Maybe I can start a conversation here. What's the best way to ship eggs?

I'm not having very good luck with Aquabid orders for eggs (and there's not a lot available right now through the AKA). My own eggs do fine. Since

I want to make eggs available when the weather warms up, I'm curious about

two things:

1) Is wet peat the best way to send? It sure hasn't been the best way to
receive them in my experience.

2) Can I wait until I see some real development before I ship mine (21 day

incubation types)? Like @ 7 to 10 days.

Ironically, my best results have been supplied by a breeder in Germany - not by domestic breeders. He uses wet (though fibrous) peat also, but my hatches are much better through him despite the journey. I was thinking of

vials of water with eggs placed in polyester yarn. Much easier to find and

see what you acually got from the start. Any suggestions?

Kyle



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Remember what happened to Julius Caesar during March. Could it be that
March
is a cursed month <Smile>





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I suppose nothing to talk about is better than talking about nothing!



Curt Smith

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From: Burt Gorton <bgorton15 at yahoo_com>
Subject: [Killietalk] Problem with my system of email or
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I'm wondering if there is a problem with killietalk or is it my
computer/email?????? Seems like the second time within the last week that I'm not seeing any activity on killietalk..can't help but wonder if

its something on my end??????





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From: BigJohnW at webtv_net (John Wubbolt)
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Problem with my system of email or
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Burt

Things have just been really quiet.... your email is working just
fine.. Must be the Ides of March is all.... lol

John



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I suppose nothing to talk about is better than talking about nothing!



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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:04:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Burt Gorton <bgorton15 at yahoo_com>
Subject: [Killietalk] Problem with my system of email or
killietalk????
To: killietalk at actwin_com

I'm wondering if there is a problem with killietalk or is it my
computer/email?????? Seems like the second time within the last week that I'm not seeing any activity on killietalk..can't help but wonder if

its something on my end??????





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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:24:24 -0500
From: BigJohnW at webtv_net (John Wubbolt)
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Problem with my system of email or
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To: killietalk at actwin_com (killifish discussion list)

Burt

Things have just been really quiet.... your email is working just
fine.. Must be the Ides of March is all.... lol

John



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From: BigJohnW at webtv_net (John Wubbolt)
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Computer or Kill Digest problem....
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Eh Tu Brutus???

whoa..... now that brings back memories of High school english lit
class... Not my fondest memorizing alot of shakespears siliques ( hope
i spelled that right)

But Fish wise...... Every one here is enjoying the springtime.... its
amazing how a little nicer weather makes me want to spend more time
doing tank work then when its -25F, dark and snowy outside...

Rememer ..... change your clocks tonight!!

Thawing Out... Tundra Johnny



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