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Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Shipping eggs
From: "Ken" <ken_combs at sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:40:12 -0400
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Kyle, et all
Karl is right, while I've got about 1/2 my species via mail...it doesn't
count the other 20+ attempts that failed or nearly so...I've sold and
received eggs on Aquabid, so God only knows how many duds I sold...

Personally, I've sent out eggs to 3-4 people "mid-winter"...I'm not sure
what the results were, but I treated them like fish: heat pack, clean water,
air and a insulated package...I use that method because eggs I've received
in that manner have a much higher hatch 5 than the ole peat in an envelope
thing

Thing is, the mailing environment isn't always the culprit...obviously our
skills vary at shipping prowess, and that "universally" applied shipping
method of sticking eggs in peat, and thence into an envelop is IMHO
guaranteed to yield poor or at best "so so" results for many aphyosemions at
least, esp. over long distances....

I guess perhaps my stint in killies isn't long enough to have credibility to
criticize this method or that, all I know is aphy eggs in peat and thence in
an envelop might be a inexpensive/easy shipping method, but IMHO is
certainly a subpar method for certain species (especially using "fresh"
eggs)

....whomever keeps advocating this method outta put a strong disclaimer on
it at least...


2cents KC (orig content left below on purpose)


-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces at actwin_com [mailto:killietalk-bounces at actwin_com]
On Behalf Of Karl Doering
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:46 PM
To: kyle stark; killifish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Shipping eggs

Dont  deal in eggs. Though the mail it is a crap shoot.Un less you need the 
money & not any fish friends. Mail fish if they make it alive your 
obligation is done.I dont mail eggs if i can hand deliver them thats ok. I'm

speaking with almost 40 years of experience
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kyle stark" <kylestark at earthlink_net>
To: <killietalk at actwin_com>
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Shipping eggs


> Maybe I can start a conversation here. What's the best way to ship eggs?
>
> I'm not having very good luck with Aquabid orders for eggs (and there's 
> not a lot available right now through the AKA). My own eggs do fine. Since

> I want to make eggs available when the weather warms up, I'm curious about

> two things:
>
> 1) Is wet peat the best way to send? It sure hasn't been the best way to 
> receive them in my experience.
>
> 2) Can I wait until I see some real development before I ship mine (21 day

> incubation types)? Like @ 7 to 10 days.
>
> Ironically, my best results have been supplied by a breeder in Germany - 
> not by domestic breeders. He uses wet (though fibrous) peat also, but my 
> hatches are much better through him despite the journey. I was thinking of

> vials of water with eggs placed in polyester yarn. Much easier to find and

> see what you acually got from the start. Any suggestions?
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:24:55 -0500
>>From: "Durward Bishop" <bishopds at bellsouth_net>
>>Subject: [Killietalk] Computer or Kill Digest problem....
>>To: <killietalk at actwin_com>
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>>Remember what happened to Julius Caesar during March. Could it be that 
>>March
>>is a cursed month <Smile>
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>>Message: 2
>>Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:04:22 -0500
>>From: Curtis Smith <cskillies at hotmail_com>
>>Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Killietalk Digest, Vol 68, Issue 5
>>To: <killietalk at actwin_com>
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>>
>>I suppose nothing to talk about is better than talking about nothing!
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>>
>>
>>Curt Smith
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>>> From: killietalk-request at actwin_com
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>>> Subject: [Killietalk] Problem with my system of email or
>>> killietalk????
>>> To: killietalk at actwin_com
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>>> I'm wondering if there is a problem with killietalk or is it my 
>>> computer/email?????? Seems like the second time within the last week 
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>>> its something on my end??????
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>>>
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>>> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:24:24 -0500
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>>> Burt
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>>> Things have just been really quiet.... your email is working just
>>> fine.. Must be the Ides of March is all.... lol
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>>> John
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>>Message: 3
>>Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:04:22 -0500
>>From: Curtis Smith <cskillies at hotmail_com>
>>Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Killietalk Digest, Vol 68, Issue 5
>>To: <killietalk at actwin_com>
>>
>>
>>I suppose nothing to talk about is better than talking about nothing!
>>
>>
>>
>>Curt Smith
>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:04:35 -0800 (PST)
>>> From: Burt Gorton <bgorton15 at yahoo_com>
>>> Subject: [Killietalk] Problem with my system of email or
>>> killietalk????
>>> To: killietalk at actwin_com
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if there is a problem with killietalk or is it my 
>>> computer/email?????? Seems like the second time within the last week 
>>> that I'm not seeing any activity on killietalk..can't help but wonder if

>>> its something on my end??????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:24:24 -0500
>>> From: BigJohnW at webtv_net (John Wubbolt)
>>> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Problem with my system of email or
>>> killietalk????
>>> To: killietalk at actwin_com (killifish discussion list)
>>>
>>> Burt
>>>
>>> Things have just been really quiet.... your email is working just
>>> fine.. Must be the Ides of March is all.... lol
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
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>>------------------------------
>>
>>Message: 4
>>Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:37:38 -0500
>>From: BigJohnW at webtv_net (John Wubbolt)
>>Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Computer or Kill Digest problem....
>>To: killietalk at actwin_com (killifish discussion list)
>>
>>Eh Tu Brutus???
>>
>>whoa..... now that brings back memories of High school english lit
>>class...   Not my fondest memorizing alot of shakespears siliques ( hope
>>i spelled that right)
>>
>>But Fish wise...... Every one here is enjoying the springtime.... its
>>amazing how a little nicer weather makes me want to spend more time
>>doing tank work then when its -25F, dark and snowy outside...
>>
>>Rememer ..... change your clocks tonight!!
>>
>>Thawing Out... Tundra Johnny
>>
>>
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