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Re: [Killietalk] Killietalk] Virtual Events, Proxy bidding in late March
Its always neat when people just can't stand to try anything
new. Its much easier to condemn new ideas than ask just how it could work.
And by the way, I spent quite a few hours without sleep at the
Chicago Convention in 1999 and have also spent a lot of sleepless
hours at the Chicago and WAKO shows from 1998 through 2004 as
well. And, oh, when I went to other shows, a lot of them, since the
Midwest has a lot of good shows, I helped as a runner at the
auctions and helped bag fish and cleanup. I have considered myself
a good AKA member over the 20 plus aggregate years I have belonged.
Ask anyone you like from the Midwest. But that would be the right way
to do things wouldn't it. Its a lot easier to do it the way you
have. But, what ever aspersions you'd like to cast are up to
you. Feel free to demonstrate how small you are..
'nuff said ! Bye !
At 07:15 PM 2/20/2009, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:15:13 -0500
From: Gary Elson or Mary Frauley <fraulels at videotron_ca>
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Virtual Events, Proxy bidding in late March
To: ken_combs at sbcglobal.net, killifish discussion list
<killietalk at actwin_com>
To put it simply, scr*w technology. This is about people. What Ken doesn't
realize is how much work is involved. At every convention I have ever
attended, I have happily joined the people who bag fish between the show and
the auction. It's a small job in an overall convention, but it's a few solid
hours of work by a group. In Syracuse, there were people from all over the
AKA world (I heard swearing in English, French and Spanish in there) who
joined in and worked hard. It's a fun chore because you're doing it with
fellow AKAers, but you work fast and you work steadily. You miss other
activities, generally speakers. I can't imagine who would do the work during
and after the auction some posters are being so glib about. Larry'd probably
wander off again.
I think we need an auction feature on our dark blue forums year round, but
we don't need online auctions running at the same time as the realtime
auction. Why ship the fish to the convention just to have them shipped
You know, at the last convention, an individual who had clearly spent a
goodly amount of time in the hospitality room told me a story about how he
and his friends loved to stir the pot on killietalk by basically playing the
internet troll game - looking for fires to throw gas on and discussing their
fun with each other offlist. We have seen Ken's sincere "undeveloped idea"
floated on the list. And now, in the guise of support for a legitimate idea,
I think we're getting trolled. It's the usual sequence : idea - idea not
proposed to the BOT but fired at the list- support without any concrete
offers of help - denunciation of dinosaurs - which will of course lead to
denunciations of the BOT, denunciations of individuals on the BOT, shots at
affiliate clubs and lots of chuckling in Trollworld. It's just so boring to
see these childish patterns endlessly repeated.
Ken, develop the idea and submit it to the BOT. The members can look at a
proposal with a breakdown of costs, technology and human hours for the
auction, the packing, the money collection and the shipping at the open
meeting. Maybe it will be put in place for the convention Larry Botkin seems
to want to organize in Texas next year.
> On Behalf Of Karl Doering
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:36 PM
> To: killifish discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Virtual Events, Proxy bidding in late March
> Lonny this a double sword if you work this out. Mr cooper & company well
> siting by themselves with a lot of beer to drink. If i can spend $400.00
> $500.00 on fish over the phone why should i go???
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