Re: [Killietalk] AKA Roster

[CHRIS BUTCHER <crichbutcher at msn_com>]

A few quick points here
 
1. My initial question , which led to all of this was simple, where can I find the point breakdown for KEY, and why was I not sent a roster the last 3 years since I rejoined the AKA.  If we are moving toward a computer age it should be on the web site.
 
Keith Cook e mailed me privately the point breakdown for the KEY award and stated that he would like it and current standings to be on web page.  Which they are not.  He also stated they were mentioned in the BNL a few years ago, I dug into my stash and found it.  There is no eBNL stash in my house, most times a quick glance, a look at the 2-4 other people that list fish and a delete, it takes up too much e mail space.
 
2.  I was told by another person that if I wanted a current roster I had to ask for it, and it was in the BNL/eBNL which is great but I did not get a complete eBNL last month, nor did my father , nor another member I talked to.
 
3. My add for the eBNL was cut in half on the EBNL form, where I was told the paper roster had the full add.
 
If we are going to a computer age form of communication then we better make sure there is a checks and balance where all members get FULL content of BNL rather than be subjective to many questions.
 
Also if we are going to a computer age then if our Web page says accepting BOT nominations after the "deadline" has passed, then we as a club should accept them, another story for another day.
 
"the left hand needs to work with the right"
 
back to picking eggs> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:53:13 -0400> From: ron_schulz at gmail.com> To: killietalk at aka_org> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] AKA Roster> > Hi John,> As Barry has stated, I think it is clear that the AKA can not> afford to send out printed rosters to everyone every other year> without further dues increases. If YOU want a printed roster every> other year.....fine. No one is preventing that. I simply feel YOU> should pay for it. Again......my dues are subsidizing your need to> have a hard copy of the roster. And I do hope that the people who> receive a hard copy roster actually use it. If you followed the> thread, it was Barry who thought otherwise. I never said JAKA should> be all electronic. You're simply making things up. JAKA is an AKA> treasure........an absolute gem. And unfortunately for many, the only> compelling reason to keep up an AKA membership. So.......offering an> electronic version at much reduced membership fees as the IBC has> done could be dang!
 erous. Without stringent copy protection, I could> envision unauthorized copies floating around everywhere, possibly> seriously affecting membership. Regarding internet access, it's closer> to 90% within the AKA. I happen to think that in these times in this> economic environment ,a dues increase should have been a last resort.> Look at it in the context of all the other price increases people> have had to recently endure. Which one is the last straw?? I can tell> you that a few long time members of my affiliate club no longer> attend meetings under the crushing burden of $4+ gas prices combined> with a lengthy commute. A move to an electronic BNL for the close to> the 90% who provide internet access combined with a dues increase for> anyone requiring a paper BNL could have prevented a dues increase for> the large majority of the membership. We now know that contrary to> YOUR claim, the IBC did NOT lose membership upon offering the> electronic option at reduced costs. We al!
 so know that the ACA did NOT> lose membership either when it changed t
o an electronic trading post> and a 4 per year 1 page newsletter saving about $7500 a year in the> process.. What we DON"T know is how an across the board dues increase> will effect AKA membership but I guess that information will be> forthcoming. I suggest that when a 30+ year AKA member and dedicated> killie guy like Joel Antkowiak questions the value of an AKA> membership, the BOT might want to listen. This organization is> already largely one of old farts. Let's not make it largely one of> well to due old farts as well.> .........................................Ron Schulz...........Dutchess> County NY... MAKA, UNYKA> On 7/27/08, John Wubbolt <BigJohnW at webtv_net> wrote:> > i dont believe that members should have to ask for a printed roster.....> > It should be mailed to everyone.... Ron, if you think only a few ppl> > actually use it... think again. Charging people for what was supposed> > to be a service isnt right. One roster every other year is what we> > always got...!
  until about 4 years ago... that was the last roster sent> > to me. I also suppose you believe that the JAKA should be all> > electronic too, if you believe that the BNL should be. It doesnt> > matter if 75% of members have internet access, to suggest that we do> > away with all mailed paper BNL and JAKA is stupid. Look at the IBC..> > they went all electronic and membership dropped. This is not the way> > to go.... being cheap isnt going to save the AKA> >> > John> >> > Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.> > Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/> > Modify your subscription at> > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk> >> Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/> Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
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