Re: [Killietalk] Convention Show - New Rules

["David Lains" <david at zebrafish_org>]

And time spent in the field.

Best Fishes
David 

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From: killietalk-bounces at aka_org [mailto:killietalk-bounces at aka_org] On
Behalf Of Barry Cooper
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Convention Show - New Rules

I posted my reply before seeing Brian's. I just wanted to say that the 
similarity in our replies, including the use of the phrase "knock the 
socks off" is pure coincidence. Perhaps it reflects our shared colonial 
origins.

BC

Barry J. Cooper
Sweet Home, OR 97386



Brian Watters wrote:
> Mark Delraso wrote:
>
>   
>> I guess that a pair of wild caught Nothos won't get judged
>> either!
>>
>>     
>
> No, they would not.
>
>   
>> Anyone with experience working with wild fish knows
>> that wild fish degrade when introduced to a closed system.
>>
>>     
>
> Well, I have had probably more experience with wild Nothos than anyone and
I
> can assure you that is not the case. You will rarely, if ever, see a
captive
> bred Notho that is superior to a wild specimen of the same species. If a
> wild Notho survives the transport back from the wild into our fishrooms,
> within 1-3 weeks they will be in a condition where they would knock spots
> off any captive bred Notho in a show. Their deportment will also be as
good
> or better. Wild Nothos do not cower in a corner but show themselves. Many
> times, when collecting Nothos in the wild we have commented on the fact
that
> the fish we were collecting would, without question, win first place in
any
> show in which they were entered. They have a brilliance of color and a
size
> that one never sees in captive bred fish. And, as I say, the retain those
> qualities in captivity.
>
> I have also collected a lot of wild lampeyes and the difference between
wild
> lampeyes, in terms of superior quality, and captive bred specimens is even
> more pronounced than it is with Nothos. I made the same observation with
the
> few populations of Epiplatys that I have collected and I would guess that
> the same applies for wild caught Aphyosemions and Fundulopanchax, although
I
> have no personal experience with wild fish of those genera.
>
> I can't comment on NA native fishes as I have no experience with them.
>
>   
>> Furthermore, a newly caught, wild fish wouldn't show well
>> anyway.  A good judge would notice that they would be stressed
>> out - no color!
>>
>>     
>
> As I mentioned above that certainly does not apply to Nothos and lampeyes.
> All it takes is a week or two to recover from the rigors of being in a
> plastic bag without food for 2-3 weeks and they look just like they did in
> the wild, i.e. with very few exceptions, superior to any captive bred
> specimen of the same species that you are likely see.
> ___________________________
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