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Re: [Killietalk] Water problems: Solution???

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Brian Watters
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: killietalk-bounces at aka_org [mailto:killietalk-bounces at aka_org]On
> Behalf Of cscral at mindspring_com
> Sent: December 8, 2007 3:13 AM
> To: killifish discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Water problems: Solution???
>
>
>
> Do you know the latin name for the jeweled orchid?
> Thanks,
> Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: David Lains <david at zebrafish_org>
> >Sent: Dec 7, 2007 7:43 PM
> >To: 'killifish discussion list' <killietalk at aka_org>
> >Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Water problems: Solution???
> >
> >Hi Lee
> >
> >The jeweled orchid also loves sending it's terrestrial roots through fish
> >water.
> >
> >Plus the leaves are better than the flowers.
> >
> >Best Fishes
> >David
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: killietalk-bounces at aka_org [mailto:killietalk-bounces at aka_org] On
> >Behalf Of lee Van Hyfte
> >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:34 PM
> >To: na na
> >Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Water problems: Solution???
> >
> >
> >Hey Bob, Dave, et all,
> >
> >One solution that has been used by salt aquarists is algae bed
> filtration.
> >Essentially running all waste water through a tank of macroalgae
> to remove
> >toxins and nitrogenous waste.  Also massively increases total dissolved
> >oxygen content.
> >
> >This could be done continuously in the system.  or via a water change and
> >separate system where water is recycled.
> >
> >Waste treatment facilities do this with hyacinth in the south.
> raw sewage
> >in and pure drinkable water at the end.   SAW THIS ON DISCOVERY!!!!! They
> >guy actually took a glass of it and drank it.  He has a lot more faith in
> >hyacinth than I do!!
> >
> >
> >Anyway,  2 tanks full of Najas could be 12 hour cycled with
> light to become
> >the "algae bed filter".    attention to Iron potassium and
> Magnesium would
> >be essential make sure the plants are strong enough to FILTER!! I would
> >think carbon filtration would be beneficial to remove the hormones etc
> >produced by the fish (might be useful to only run the carbon
> once weekly to
> >reduce the amount of Iron etc. it would filter out).  THE 2
> tanks of Najas
> >are a must!!  This allows the plants time on an alternating basis to
> >assimilate nutrients that have been taken up during the light
> phase.  Many
> >plants and most noteably, cabomba actually go to sleep whether
> you turn out
> >the lights or not, and thus do not uptake anymore nutrients.
> SO one lit 12
> >hours while the other sleeps would be advantageous.
> >
> >Using the 48" 32w t-8 GE cool whites and the 48inch strip lights
> from home
> >depot should be sufficient to make NAJAS grow well.  A mix of the cheaper
> >warm and the cool white should actually be advantageous.  I
> think the cools
> >are listed at 5000k.
> >
> >CO2 use would greatly amplify how effective the plants uptake nutrients.
> >Plus you could control acidity in the tanks and potential soften
> the water.
> >
> >
> > I would imagine if using Anacharis or elodea would actually soften the
> >water in the process (without CO2).  They can utilize Calcium
> carbonate as a
> >replacement for CO2.   But this comes with a cost of plant growth
> >efficiency.
> >
> >Lastly, on the "algae bed" filter.   When using CO2 especially.
> The plants
> >can actually cause water to exceed the 100% total dissolved
> oxygen level!!!!
> >Some experiments ran by Dupla showed water at a level of 107% on the out
> >feed lines. (using CO2 and plant supplementation)   This means healthier
> >fish, higher growth rates, no nitrates, no ammonia, no nitrate,
> NO DISEASE!!
> >So 2 algae bed filters ran on a centralized system significantly reduces
> >required water changes (possibly to none) not to mention it simply
> >replicates what nature does on its own.
> >
> >NAJAS should be an excellent candidate!!  High growth rates, and WAY TOO
> >HARDY!!!
> >
> >FOR THE RECORD!!!   I intend to utilize this in my central systems once I
> >get the NEW fishroom.    Saves a lot of water changes and labor!!!!!
> >
> >Another alternative is the deBryun filters which reportedly only require
> >topping off.   Should be able to find the PDF document on how to
> build one
> >on the internet.
> >
> >
> >Oh on houseplants.  The Spathophyllums (a.k.a. Peace lillies)
> are excellent
> >water rooted plants.  Available at almost every wal-mart and
> home depot with
> >a garden center.  Heavy feeders easy to grow, use moderate light
> to bright
> >light.    Using something like rock wool to support the crown would make
> >this an excellent plant.   HUGE ROOT SYSTEMS!!!!   Often found
> in the "betta
> >Bowl" kits.
> >
> >If you want to try an orchid try Phragmepediums.  REQUIRE high-ish light
> >though.  Found in the wild with roots in the streams.  Especially phrag.
> >besseae and its BEAUTIFUL HYBRIDS!!!!   Crown of the plant needs to be
> >relatively dry though. So only the roots can be in the water.
> >
> >God Bless, Lee van Hyfte <><  the "Rivnut"
> >
> >
> >
> >
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