Re: [Killietalk] Frozen foods

[Gerald Rosenbeck <grosenbeck at hotmail_com>]

Hello All,
 
One thing is fore sure; in pond culture the glass worms need to be destoryed before adding the larval fish or you will get little return fore your effort.
 
Gerry> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:53:34 -0800> From: altos at att_net> To: killietalk at aka_org> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Frozen foods> > Hi Guys,> > Based on what has been said, are the clear larvae any better or worse than the red "blood worms"? I guess they call them "glass worms" My fish readily take both when I feed frozen. They appear to be the same larvae. I have been using the cyclopeeze and can tell you that even the diapterons go nutz for it.> > Mark DelRaso> Indianapolis> > Wright Huntley <whuntley at verizon_net> wrote:> Al Anderson wrote:> > Go collect tubifex sometime and you will wonder how any thing can eat them > > while they live let alone frozen.> > Tubifex live under conditions that are polluted and are there for a poor > > fish food because of the various pathogens they carry. Some of the tubifex > > that is imported is collected from open sewers that contain human waste. > > What was that in your brine shrimp net. How do they store bacteria? I think > > they freeze it. Also blood worms are harvested from pools where pig waste is > > treated. I wonder how well they are washed and where does the washing water > > comes from. No wonder people like myself get sick when we handle frozen or > > freeze dried blood worms.> > Ok now all you big guys with the PhD's tell me how full of BS I am off list > > or on list if they will let you.> > > Hey Al,> > My doctorate happens to be in divinity, not philosophy, but I still > enjoy telling you where to get off. :-)> > Yes, tubifex are basically sewer worms that have a lot more hemoglobin > than black worms and are thus able to live with much lower oxygen in the > water. That's why they are more red. They also cannot breathe through > their tails, like black worms, so have to get all their oxygen out of > solution.> > A few days purge in clean running water clears their gut and takes > unwanted bacteria down to acceptable levels. Fire any vendor who doesn't > do that for you.> > Blood worms, OTOH, are not worms, and are midge-fly larvae (like > mosquito wrigglers but with more hemoglobin, so able to stand more > pollution). They make people sick because they are powerfully allergenic > to some folks. The reaction is an allergy, and not from any infection. > Freeze drying kills bacteria, but doesn't remove the substances that > cause the allergic reaction.> > You won't catch me trying to collect tubifex. They thrive in truly nasty > conditions. CA banned their import from Mexico, so we cannot get them > here any more, anyway.> > I do catch and feed all the blood worms I find in my outdoor tubs. So > far, I have not had an adverse reaction to them, but am aware that they > can be rough on you if you do become sensitized.> > See, I only accused you of being partially full of BS, this time. Is > that a record for me? :-)> > Wright> > -- > Wright Huntley - 805 Valley West Cir., Bishop CA 93514 > whuntley at verizon_net 760 872-3995. Cell 760 937-2276> > Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/> Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk> > Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/> Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
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