Re: [Killietalk] Frozen foods

[rgoldstein at rjgacarolina_com]

Hi Al - Couldn't resist the invitation!  Tubifex are a good food, alive,
but I've found the freeze-dried stuff pretty awful, and probably inclusive
of (as indicated) freeze-dried intestinal bacteria along with them since
they are, as has been said, associated with sewage. Have no knowledge of
frozen tubifex, but that would be pointless when you can get frozen
bloodworms. Bloodworms are insect larvae, which as a group are far more
nutrituous than worms or especially crustacean larvae for various reasons
(mostly fats). Adult brine shrimp are occasionally thawed and refrozen,
but a reputable dealer won't sell that stuff. It should be red, not black,
and I like to order it from an internet dealer in bulk to be sure I'm
getting good stuff. One thing not yet mentioned is frozen copepods
(Cyclopeeze), which is highly nutritious and pretty much everything
accepts it. Don't overlook frozen mysids and various formulations of
krill, which are zooplankton like cyclopeeze, but considerably larger and
consisting of a different type of zooplanker (shrimp like rather than
copepod). I also like live daphniae, but I've also heard they are low in
nutrition. I don't recall seeing any published lab analysis stuff on its
value. The dissing of daphniae probably dates to the old Innes book.



> Go collect tubifex sometime and you will wonder how any thing can eat them
> while they live let alone frozen.
> Tubifex live under conditions that are polluted and are there for a poor
> fish food because of the various pathogens they carry. Some of the tubifex
> that is imported is collected from open sewers that contain human waste.
> What was that in your brine shrimp net. How do they store bacteria? I
> think
> they freeze it. Also blood worms are harvested from pools where pig waste
> is
> treated. I wonder how well they are washed and where does the washing
> water
> comes from. No wonder people like myself get sick when we handle frozen or
> freeze dried blood worms.
> Ok now all you big guys with the PhD's tell me how full of BS I am off
> list
> or on list if they will let you.
>
> Al Anderson
> Breed your fish today before man's
> over population kill's the wild supply.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George & Melanie Caruso" <caraway1 at centurytel_net>
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> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:08 PM
> Subject: [Killietalk] Frozen foods
>
>
>>I picked  up a small pack of frozen Hikari tubifex worms to give them a
>>try. I have used tubifex in the past but it has been a few years since I
>>used it last. I was really surprised of the poor quality of the product.
>>This is not a cheap food either! I made an attemp to rinse the food in
>> one
>>of my old brine shrimp nets before I fed it and was left with a small
>>amount of slimy looking something. I was so disgusted with it I washed it
>>down the drain. Anyone else have any experience using frozen tubifex
>>worms???
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