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Re: [Killietalk] New Nothobranchius
Yes, a nice pair of the N. sp. Nassoro MZHL 05-14 was sent to WCW by
Martin. I bought that pair and have eggs incubating. The confusion, as
this thread indicates, is whether this fish is really what was described
as N. hengstleri. For my part, I intend to err on the cautious side and
continue to refer to the fish as N. sp. Nassoro MZHL 05-14 until the
confusion is cleared up.
Barry
Barry J. Cooper
Sweet Home, OR 97386
Martin Fourcade wrote:
> Hi Group
>
> "By the way, has this new species been distributed in
> the hobby ? I am
> uncertain of that."
>
>
> Yes,the fish is on the hobbie.
> Im breeding now a nice group.
>
> One fish pair was presented in last NWK show.
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Martin
>
>
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>> 1. Re: New Notho described (Brian Watters)
>> 2. Aphanius dispar (Joe Bulterman)
>> 3. Re: New Notho described (karl doering)
>> 4. Re: New Notho described - take two (Brian
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:58:48 -0700
>> From: Brian Watters <bwatters at shaw_ca>
>> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] New Notho described
>> To: killifish discussion list <killietalk at aka_org>
>>
>> There would seem to be some confusion about this new
>> species. Let me see if
>> I can clear that up.
>>
>> Charlie Nunziata wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Does anyone know whether the N. sp. Messalo River,
>>>
>> MZHL-05-12 is the same
>>
>>> fish. It does look the same.
>>>
>>>
>> N. sp. Messalo River MZHL-05-12 is a different
>> species, representing one of
>> the undescribed N. sp. Makonde populations (a
>> description of which is in
>> preparation).
>>
>> Tom Grady wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The abstract mentions the only collection in
>>>
>> northern Mozambique
>>
>>> was done by
>>> John Rosenstock and N. hengstleri was the only
>>>
>> undescribed
>>
>>> species which is
>>> also found in southern Tanzania. You should be
>>>
>> able to find the abstract
>>
>>> and picture on http://www.nothobranchius.org/ .
>>>
>>>
>> There is only one known population of N. hengstleri
>> and that is the Nassoro
>> MZHL 05-14 population. This was collected by Holger
>> Hengstler. John
>> Rosenstock did not collect this fish but rather he
>> collected the N. sp.
>> Makonde Notho (as mentioned above, a different
>> species) from two localities
>> in the Pemba area in 2003. We collected populations
>> of the Makonde Notho
>> just south of Pemba in 2004 and in southern Tanzania
>> in 1997. There have
>> been other collections in northern Mozambique by
>> professional ichthyologists
>> as well.
>>
>> Nick Ternes wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The only survey of northern Mozambique was done by
>>>
>> Rosenstock. The
>>
>>> type species was collected by Holger Hengstler,
>>>
>> hence the species name
>>
>>> hengstleri. It is currently only known from the
>>>
>> type locality. There
>>
>>> is a similar undescribed species that is found
>>>
>> both in N. Mozambique
>>
>>> and Tanzania.
>>>
>>>
>> No, there have been numerous surveys done in
>> "northern" Mozambique, John's
>> was just one, and Hengstler's was another. The other
>> undescribed Notho you
>> refer to is the Makonde Notho and while some
>> populations of that may
>> supeficially resemble N. hengstleri, they are quite
>> distinct.
>>
>> Karl Doering wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So now is this fish N.Hengstler MZHL 05-12 or just
>>>
>> N. Hengstler ??
>>
>> No, the MZHL 05-12 code belongs to a population of
>> the as yet undescribed
>> Makonde Notho, i.e. N. sp. Messalo River MZHL-05-12.
>> The new species should
>> be referred to as:
>>
>> N. hengstleri Nassoro MZHL 05-14
>>
>> By the way, has this new species been distributed in
>> the hobby ? I am
>> uncertain of that.
>> ___________________________
>> Brian Watters
>> 6141 Parkwood Drive
>> Nanaimo, BC, V9T 6A2
>> Canada
>> Ph: (250) 760-0564
>> E-mail: bwatters at shaw_ca
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:40:06 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Joe Bulterman <jbulterman at yahoo_com>
>> Subject: [Killietalk] Aphanius dispar
>> To: killifish discussion list <killietalk at aka_org>
>>
>> Sandra and I just got back from a collecting trip in
>> northern Oman where we were able to collect what
>> will most certainly be dispar. We found the fish in
>> the town of Mahda, Musandam, Oman. The feeder for
>> the springs is Wadi Al Horrah. This is an easy day
>> trip from Sharjah/Dubai for any of you that might
>> have the collecting bug and happen to be in the
>> area.
>>
>> Joe Bulterman
>> International School of Choueifat
>> PO Box 2077
>> University City Road, Industrial No. 6
>> Nr. Cricket Stadium
>> Sharjah, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
>> +971 6 558 2211
>> +971 055 942 5049 (Mobil)
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Martin Fourcade <fourcade30 at yahoo_com.ar>
>> To: killietalk at aka_org
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:02:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] New Notho described (karl
>> doering)
>>
>> Hi Group
>>
>>
>> Nothobranchius Spec Nassoro MZHL 2005-14 is now
>> Nothobranchius hengstleri.
>>
>> Some extra info : Holotype ZSM 34483 ( male 41.3 mm
>> SL);Mozambique , Cabo Delgado, 5km North of Nassoro
>> village
>>
>> Some fish pics at:
>>
>>
> http://www.grupoargentinodekillis.net/galeria/index.php?list=43
>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
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