Re: [Killietalk] New Notho described

["karl doering" <kilikarl at bignet_net>]

N. hengstleri Nassoro MZHL 05-14 I have 30+ fry just sexing out.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Watters" <bwatters at shaw_ca>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] New Notho described


> There would seem to be some confusion about this new species. Let me see 
> if
> I can clear that up.
>
> Charlie Nunziata wrote:
>
>>
>>Does anyone know whether the N. sp. Messalo River, MZHL-05-12 is the same
>>fish. It does look the same.
>>
>
> N. sp. Messalo River MZHL-05-12 is a different species, representing one 
> of
> the undescribed N. sp. Makonde populations (a description of which is in
> preparation).
>
> Tom Grady wrote:
>
>>
>> The abstract mentions the only collection in northern Mozambique
>> was done by
>> John Rosenstock and N. hengstleri was the only undescribed
>> species which is
>> also found in southern Tanzania.  You should be able to find the abstract
>> and picture on http://www.nothobranchius.org/ .
>>
>
> There is only one known population of N. hengstleri and that is the 
> Nassoro
> MZHL 05-14 population. This was collected by Holger Hengstler. John
> Rosenstock did not collect this fish but rather he collected the N. sp.
> Makonde Notho (as mentioned above, a different species) from two 
> localities
> in the Pemba area in 2003. We collected populations of the Makonde Notho
> just south of Pemba in 2004 and in southern Tanzania in 1997. There have
> been other collections in northern Mozambique by professional 
> ichthyologists
> as well.
>
> Nick Ternes wrote:
>
>>
>> The only survey of northern Mozambique was done by Rosenstock.  The
>> type species was collected by Holger Hengstler, hence the species name
>> hengstleri.  It is currently only known from the type locality.  There
>> is a similar undescribed species that is found both in N. Mozambique
>> and Tanzania.
>>
>
> No, there have been numerous surveys done in "northern" Mozambique, John's
> was just one, and Hengstler's was another. The other undescribed Notho you
> refer to is the Makonde Notho and while some populations of that may
> supeficially resemble N. hengstleri, they are quite distinct.
>
> Karl Doering wrote:
>
>>
>>So now is this fish N.Hengstler MZHL 05-12 or just  N. Hengstler ??
>>
>
> No, the MZHL 05-12 code belongs to a population of the as yet undescribed
> Makonde Notho, i.e. N. sp. Messalo River MZHL-05-12. The new species 
> should
> be referred to as:
>
> N. hengstleri Nassoro MZHL 05-14
>
> By the way, has this new species been distributed in the hobby ? I am
> uncertain of that.
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