Re: [Killietalk] Commercial imports; what to label them?

["R. Brice" <Tarmack at clarityconnect_com>]

Hello John,

The collecting codes for cichlids are hidden in the name: Ps demasoni "pombo 
rock" ... where the pombo rock is the collection code.  Lab. C. "lions cove" 
is another collection code and so on for a lot of African cichlids.

Discus have river collections attached to them unless they are an aquarium 
strain (derived from mixing the different river collections)

Guppies are so mixed that there are very few wild strains traded ...

Angels have collection codes but only for the "wilds" and are tracked only 
by a few top breeders to clean out the genetic problems that follow strains 
like the gold marble pearlscale, which does not occur in the wild but only a 
domesticated "aquarium strain"

A few quick notes,
Richard Brice

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Jabba" <diapteronsrgud at yahoo_ca>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Commercial imports; what to label them?


> HI;
>   I have been following the series of posts on collection codes and I am 
> trying to understand the logic about maintaining them.  To my way of 
> thinking, after a given species has been kept and bred in your fishroom 
> for a couple of generations the collection code is no longer valid for 
> this particular pair and its offspring should take on a code relating to 
> your fishroom. After all its native biotope is now that of a location in 
> your house.
>
> I wouldn't think that there is ever any likelihood of ever taking any 
> species back to the original collecting point to possibly repopulate it. I 
> have kept and bred many different fish over the years; Angels, Guppies, 
> Barbs, Cichlids, Discus, etc etc,and I don't see this kind of 
> concentration on a code relating to an original collecting point for these 
> fish so why is it done for my new love, Killifish.
>
> John J
>
> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 16:34:21 -0400
> From: "Ken"
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Commercial imports; what to label them?
> To: "'killifish discussion list'"
>
> I'm not t all against codes or labeling, as anyone who has received my 
> fish
> or visited my home can testify; when it comes to labeling and "isolation",
> I'm either paranoid, schitzo, or both :-) (fancy/detailed labels are my
> thing!)
>
> ...anyway, the whole point of codes/labeling is genetic
> integrity/identification...my crystal ball tells me; once it becomes
> cheap/easy to do; labeling per DNA/genetic "Code" in some manner is the
> logical way to go...all else is really moot (if indeed genetic purity is 
> the
> only reason for comprehensive labeling)
>
> Goals: understood we all got individual goals, but gotta admit there is 
> some
> hobby centric peer pressure & defacto unwritten/written codes of ethics
> we/most follow...and those "rules" are indeed centered around some kind of
> less visible goal(s),(or the behaviors these rules govern are near
> pointless)...
>
> My thoughts were: w/o a clear understanding of exactly what we are trying 
> to
> accomplish through using codes & standards, any implementation thereto is
> relatively inefficient/meaningless unless the effort is concerted, widely
> practiced and understood what it is we are supposed to accomplish
> ..Basically, other that I.D and therefore "dollar value", I'm not really
> certain
>
> ....pardon the slight soapbox journey there ;-)
>
> KC
>
>
>
>
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