Re: [Killietalk] Heat losses

["Drummond Howard" <drummondhoward at hotmail_com>]

If you have an exposed concrete slab, check the temp of that.  In my 
basement plastic containers on the floor stay very cool.  I've used 20 Gal 
tubs on the floor, they take up room but they are cheap and stay cool.  It's 
the only time I had to use tank heaters in my house.



Drummond Howard
Gaithersburg, Maryland





>From: Scott Davis <unclescott at prodigy_net>
>Reply-To: killifish discussion list <killietalk at aka_org>
>To: killifish discussion list <killietalk at aka_org>
>Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Heat losses
>Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 07:17:56 -0700 (PDT)
>
>A quick fix, mostly for that one tank in too warm a corner might be to take 
>a drinking water bottle or maybe a couple of those bottles and leave them 
>over night in the freezer. Float 'em, one at a time near the filter outlet 
>or above the bubble stream.
>
>Not a cheap or very green approach. but if the fish in said threatened tank 
>are old friends, maybe worth a try.
>
>By the same token, this wouldn't be very cost efficient but way back when 
>there were even stories of people aiming a fan off of a pan with a block of 
>ice in it. Prolly too inefficient and too expensive with this long string 
>of 90 degree F/ 32C days.
>
>Seeing Gary's name reminded me of how, during that awful winter power 
>outage he bagged up some of his killies, packed them in a styrofoam box and 
>took them to the office, presumably because they had their own generator. 
>Individually bagged killies, in the dark and cool shouldn't burn a critical 
>amount of energy/food for a couple of days.
>
>But when will this heat moderate?
>
>How much space might there be in the corner of the office? How tolerant is 
>your boss of stuff like that? (No help for the self employed.)
>
>Do the in-laws have air conditioning and a basement?
>
>Does the town have a temperature controlled storage facility? Do they rent 
>by the month? How's your back? ;)
>
>Maybe silly suggestions. Desperate times may demand desperate solutions 
>while the house is wired for A.C.and a home improvement loan is negotiated.
>
>It is hidden costs like space, heating and cooling which suggest that in 
>the vast majority of cases one will never really make money raising 
>killies. Maybe it is for the better if it all just remains a hobby. (The 
>difference between men and boys is the cost of their toys.)
>
>Sometimes it may be best to put the eggs on peat, leave them in a 
>reasonably moderate place and hope that they will endure.
>
>Good luck and all the best!
>
>Scott
>
>Gary Elson or Mary Frauley <fraulels at videotron_ca> wrote: Ken,
>In a hot fishroom, there are killies you can't keep without
>air-conditioning. It's an expense, but it's as essential as heat in winter.
>I set my fishroom at 24c, and while my cool temp fish don't breed, they
>survive. If I go any higher, I lose fish quickly. The (newish) room ranges
>from 19 to 24 over the year, but would be above 30 if I weren't cooling it.
>Gary
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