[Killietalk] ROTOW, AWOK, what would you recommend to a newbie?

[matt kaufman <igotadose at hotmail_com>]

Changing the subject - are either of these books worth recommeding to newbies? If I had, say, $50 to spend on killi books, my recommendations would be
 
1) Join AKA for a year :-)
2) Hellner's "Success with Killifish" -  usually can be found cheap
3) AKA Beginner's guide
4) Ed Warner's book
5) The "Enjoy your killifish" book if you can find it; great little book with lots of good info. 
6) Roger Langton's breeding book.
 
 
and look on AKA.org and the numerous killi-related sites for pictures.
 
If I wanted good picture books and had like $100 to spend, I'd add in the 3 aqualog volumes (old world killies 1 & 2, New World killies)
 
Once you're past the beginner stage, 
ROTOW if you're interested in genetics and killies; "Atlas of Killifish of the old world"  if you have money to spend and want an older book that contains the text from ROTOW and various additional random pictures that may or may not be accurate. If Aqualog had been available when I first started acquiring killies, I'd have saved the money I spent on the Atlas (I already had a copy of ROTOW). 
 
Costa's book (and definitely Roger Brousseau's SAA book) if you're interested in south american annuals.
A World Of Killifish vols. 1-4 (probably cost around $150-200 for everything, though I am not certain of the current prices.)
 
If you're interested in keeping up with names and nomenclature,
KMI
Some variation on Killi-Data (pocket, online, the whole thing for a bunch of Euros, ...)
 
If you like Cameronense, Wolfgang Eberl's "Fascination" book (esp. with the accompanying English translation) is a must-have. Outstanding photos, too.
 



> From: killietalk-request at aka_org> Subject: Killietalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10> To: killietalk at aka_org> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:00:00 -0400> > Send Killietalk mailing list submissions to> killietalk at aka_org> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo/killietalk> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> killietalk-request at aka_org> > You can reach the person managing the list at> killietalk-owner at aka_org> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Killietalk digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Rivulins of the Old World (George Slusarczuk)> 2. Re: Rivulins of the Old World (John Wubbolt)> 3. New species from Surinam? (Scott Davis)> 4. Re: Rivulins of the Old World (Earl Blewett)> 5. Re: Rivulins of the Old World (LeeH920226 at aol_com)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 20:12:52 -0400> From: George Slusarczuk <yurko at warwick_net>> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Rivulins of the Old World> To: micro at earlblewett_net, killifish discussion list> <killietalk at aka_org>> > Hello,> > I have a BRAND NEW copy of the book "Rivulins of the Old World", and am > willing to sell it.> > George> > > > On Jun 4, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Earl Blewett wrote:> > > Dear FishFolk,> >> >> >> > Jorgen Scheel's classic text, "Rivulins of the Old World" is on > > Aquabid for> > $45 S&H included.> >> >> >> > http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?books> > <http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?books&1181100591>> > &1181100591> >> >> >> > It has been out of print forever but it is still a great book.> >> >> >> > The auction ends tomorrow.> >> >> >> > Good luck,> >> >> >> > Earl> >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------> >> > Earl L. Blewett Ph.D.> >> > Assoc. Professor of Microbiology> >> > Dept of Biochemistry and Microbiology> >> > Oklahoma State University - Center for Health Sciences> >> > 1111 West 17th Street> >> > Tulsa, OK 74107> >> >> >> > micro at earlblewett_net> >> > Office (918) 561-8405> >> > FAX (918) 561-8414> >> >> >> >> >> > Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.> > Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/> > Modify your subscription at > > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk> >> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 20:19:58 -0400> From: BigJohnW at webtv_net (John Wubbolt)> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Rivulins of the Old World> To: killietalk at aka_org (killifish discussion list)> > Yes, this is a great book, im very fortunate to have been able to pick> up a second copy for my library this past spring at an aquarium club> auction very cheap. Some ppl just didnt know what the book was , but i> did.... it pays to pay attention at auctions.!!> > The one book i dont see anymore anywhere is the Big Killifish atlas that> was out there. What ever happened to all those copies?? Hidden away> in peoples libraries i guess. > > John> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 17:37:24 -0700 (PDT)> From: Scott Davis <unclescott at prodigy_net>> Subject: [Killietalk] New species from Surinam?> To: killifish discussion list <killietalk at aka_org>> > Those of you with the Yahoo home page may have seen an arrestingly beautiful image of a purple frog and an all too brief mention of an 2005-2006 expedition to the Nassau Mountains and a remote plateau in eastern Suriname. Mention was made of the discovery of six new fish species, but only one catfish, a Loricariid from the genus Guyanancistrus was mentioned.> > Part of this was a survey to see if aluminum mining would put the wildlife at risk. (Well duh!) A sponsor was a mining company who probably would want to put themselves in the area as opposed to independent and illegal miners already there.> > Naturally one wonders if any killies from the Rivulus group were found. Does anyone have more information?> > Thanks!> > A Few Images:> http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/sc/060407surinamespecie;_ylt=A0> WTUeeMlmRG9TEAcBhxieAA> > A short news story:> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/suriname_new_species;_ylt=AtNUPlAZAvqUz9YXyjI1gFCaK8MA> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:18:30 -0500> From: "Earl Blewett" <micro at earlblewett_net>> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Rivulins of the Old World> To: "'killifish discussion list'" <killietalk at aka_org>> > Dear FishFolk,> > John wrote,> << The one book i dont see anymore anywhere is the Big Killifish atlas that> was out there. What ever happened to all those copies?? Hidden away> in peoples libraries i guess.>>> > "Atlas of Killifish of the Old World" I bought a new copy for $50. It had> been out of print for 5-10 years at that time.> > Yes, I like fish books.> > Earl> -------------------------------------------------------------> Earl L. Blewett Ph.D.> Assoc. Professor of Microbiology> Dept of Biochemistry and Microbiology> Oklahoma State University - Center for Health Sciences> 1111 West 17th Street> Tulsa, OK 74107> ?> micro at earlblewett_net> Office (918) 561-8405> FAX?? (918) 561-8414> ?> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 10:00:07 EDT> From: LeeH920226 at aol_com> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Rivulins of the Old World> To: micro at earlblewett_net, killietalk at aka_org> > > In a message dated 6/5/07 9:41:02 AM, micro at earlblewett_net writes:> > > > > > "Atlas of Killifish of the Old World"? I bought a new copy for $50. It had> > been out of print for 5-10 years at that time.> > > > > > Available now on Amazon.com for over $200 and abebooks.com for $100.> > > > Lee Harper> Media PA> > > > **************************************> See what's free at http://www.aol.com.> > > ------------------------------> > To join the AKA see http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/> Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk> > End of Killietalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10> ******************************************
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