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Re: [Killietalk] AKA Registry



One point of clarification - Bill to see your listings you have to check 
the not currently available box when you search. That will include fish 
that are listed, but not currently marked as for sale.

BC

Barry J. Cooper
Sweet Home, OR 97386



Barry Cooper wrote:
> Bill,
>
> what you state is not accurate. You do not have to be an AKA member to 
> view the registry. You DO have to be registered on the site. The reason 
> for that is to reduce the risk of the form being spammed. Believe me 
> that is a real risk. As an example I recently set up an online form for 
> submission of images to Class 16 at the convention. I allowed anonymous 
> access to make it easy for non-AKA members to submit images. Within days 
> robots had found it and were spamming it and I had to require 
> registration to use it. The bottom line is that a person has to register 
> to use many of the functions of the site, even if they are not AKA 
> members. It is asking very little for people to take 2-3 minutes to 
> register. Thousands already have.
>
> There is a link to the registry on the front page, under Registry & 
> Classifieds. That is plain enough. You have suggested to me that I add a 
> statement like "Have you updated your registry entries lately" to the 
> front page. I may do that, although the reality is that many users don't 
> bother look at the content of the front page. They get to the site and 
> immediately navigate to some other page.
>
> It is also incorrect that your fish do not show up. You can document 
> that by searching for seller = wshenefelt (or even shene), which will 
> bring up your list.
>
> When we first instigated the Registry we publicized it heavily. There 
> was a flurry of use. The recent discussions on killietalk have created 
> another flurry. After a while people lose track of it and don't continue 
> to update it. We did not build in a time limit for listings, because the 
> idea was to maintain a permanent listing of what people are keeping - a 
> census of what is in the hobby. It is the responsibility of the hobbyist 
> to maintain his or her own list, deleting species that are no longer 
> kept, adding new ones, indicating whether available for sale, etc. It 
> would not be appropriate to auto-delete an entry after some arbitrary 
> period of time, as the hobbyist quite likely still keeps the fish.
>
> Like Dennis I believe that the registry, properly used, could serve a 
> very useful purpose in the hobby. Almost everyone agrees that it would 
> be useful to know what is available in the hobby. The challenge is how 
> to get people to use it, and by using it I mean maintain their lists as 
> well as initially registering fish.
>
> And one last note, we do recognize the need for anonymity, where the 
> lister wants it. That's why you can choose who can see your list.
>
> Barry
>
> Barry J. Cooper
> Sweet Home, OR 97386
>
>
>
> Bill Shenefelt wrote:
>   
>> We have such a place on the site.  It is kind of not publicized well though. 
>> Also it is only visible to AKA members when logged into the site.  This part 
>> seems strange since the listings in the Registry only show up to AKA members 
>> since only they can get to the site, yet the listings allow you to choose if 
>> "All" , "AKA", SMC" can view it.  How can "All " view it if they cannot get 
>> there?  Dennis,  you cannot see something unless it is listed for sale 
>> unless I am missing understanding some feature.  I listed all my fish but 
>> have none sexed right now to sell so did not include them as for sale.  The 
>> only way they show up is either logging into the area I can alter posts or 
>> by selecting a specific fish and searching for information.  Also the above 
>> comment on who can access it seems out of touch with the options provided 
>> (who are "All"? ).
>>
>> With this great site feature if people know about it and use it there would 
>> not be a fight as to who sees the BNL listings first.
>> I think the biggest drawback is that few are aware of it or how it does 
>> already provide a sale/purchase platform which is instantly accessible to 
>> the seller to alter. I did email Barry to ask if he could give the feature 
>> some publicity on the main page but I know he is not feeling well right now 
>> with the flu so I don't expect any rapid changes.
>>
>>  I do think that with enough publicity on the site main page and in the BNL 
>> it should get some activity beyond the few that list there now.
>>
>> Bill Shenefelt
>> http://sheneskillies.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gary Elson or Mary Frauley" <fraulels at videotron_ca>
>>   
>>     
>>> I also think there's a growing consensus among the posters that we'd like
>>> the BOT to look into a "fish sales room" section on the AKA site. I (try 
>>> to)
>>> breed my killies in natural set-ups, but I will reorganize part of my
>>> fishroom if I can use it to get eggs out quickly to AKAers.  A section 
>>> where
>>> members can easily put up or take down ads could make a lot of us either 
>>> put
>>> up or shut up. If we choose the first option, it could really liven up the
>>> AKA.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>   
>>     
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>
>   
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