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Re: [Killietalk] BNL

" Where are all these young guns??  they must 
be playing with all there  electronics & not breeding fish Or on Aquabid & 
not supporting the AKA"

We all know playing with ones "electrons" leads to blindness...
And speaking of not seeing things; perhaps a few of you are not seeing that
"killietrader", Aquabid and Ebay are "outperforming" the BNL by a wide
margin, and for a reason...

I saw something on Animal Planet or somewhere; that there is a country in
south West Africa that figured out the best way to protect it's wildlife was
by "commercializing" them...same principle applies in spades to the
"non-commercial" killies we raise....

..and BTW, sure the "standards" may be lower, and the scammers may be
lurking, but by-n-large there is no subjective BS on Aquabid someone needs
to pass in order to obtain a fish...you got the cheese, you get the
fish...if you kill a rare fish, the seller still has incentive to keep
raising & distribute them elsewhere...regardless, even odds a "rare" fish
has a good chance of being bred or killed via distribution on Aquabid as
opposed to distributing to "know breeders" via the current N&R process..

Besides money is dang good "driver" (and BTW, for every fish I sell
personally, I at least give away 3) 

Speaking of supporting the AKA, I support the AKA via a $25 fee, anymore its
obvious any suggestion on how to spend those funds (esp from the "young
guns") is wholesaled as "whinning & b*tching" or a threat to tradition...

Is it possible the BNL & F&EL is a dinosaur that has been surpassed by
bigger, better, faster venues to distribute fish? Maybe the "young guns"
aren't the only ones playin with sumthin and going blind <LOL>

BTW, personally I'm not that young, I just look good for 45 or 46 (guess
releasing those electrons do some good eh?) <Chuckle>

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces at aka_org [mailto:killietalk-bounces at aka_org] On
Behalf Of karl doering
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:38 AM
To: killifish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] BNL

Fred how are thing . I finally got my BNL & went through the F&E You Ruth 
,MKA & Karl Walters & 2 others. Where are all these young guns??  they must 
be playing with all there  electronics & not breeding fish Or on Aquabid & 
not supporting the AKA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Behrmann" <athensaquatics at juno_com>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] BNL


> Well said, Mr. Thomas Payne. Get real here guys. The National
> organization doesn't dance around the affiliates schedule. It has to be
> the other way around. The volunteer 30 year workers don't dance around
> the wishes of the "instant gratification" generation either. The "instant
> fish" guys have to learn patience also for their acquisitions as it only
> makes that specie more desirable and less likely to be "flushed". I'm not
> even going to go into "humility" because none of you have it or
> understands it. As far as the old sage thing goes; Mr. Rosario Lacorte
> sensing an arrogance in me said " These fish will teach you patience and
> humble you". Boy has he proven correct. For his fish lessons and life
> lessons I thank him.  Sincerely, Fred Behrmann
> On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:51:14 -0400 stp <paynedds at earthlink_net> writes:
>> "Joel if your dad didn't have a computor would you talk to him like
>> that
>> ???"
>>
>> Karl makes a point here that's missed by many who would want to
>> change
>> others. Will Rogers said it, "People change, .... but not much."
>> That's
>> especially true of those of us who've passed the retirement
>> milestone,..... we don't have to change, if we don't want to and
>> someone
>> else wanting us to change doesn't effect us much. If you really want
>> to
>> get fur up on the back of an "elder", or run them off, don't listen
>> to
>> them. Do that long enough and they go away. What they take away with
>>
>> them, in this hobby, is an incredible wealth of information and
>> savvy
>> about these fish.
>>
>> My guess is that this hobby's treasure store of wisdom and savvy, as
>>
>> well as the ability to build relationships based on the fish and the
>>
>> people is largely held by those whose hair has either grayed or
>> departed, or both. When those folks go, the glue that holds clubs
>> together will probably not be as strong as in the past. I've seen it
>>
>> with the passing of a few giants in my short (8 years) time focusing
>> on
>> killies and when they go a big void is left. Filling that void with
>>
>> Aquabid, Google, e-bay, and killitalk pissing contests, will morph
>> the
>> hobby into a sad state.
>>
>> Don't misunderstand me. What I'm saying is that there is an
>> important,
>> valuable place for those sages in this hobby and we need to honor
>> that
>> place, serve them well by honoring their positions, and listen to
>> them.
>> You don't have to change everything, j/ust because you can/. There's
>>
>> room for everyone. If there's not, we're in trouble.
>>
>> -- 
>> Tom Payne
>> 10100 Hoover Woods Rd.
>> Galena, Ohio 43021
>> 740-965-9311
>>
>> "You can't get second things by putting them first; you can get
>> second things only by putting first things first"
>>
>> -C.S. Lewis, "First and Second Things", God in the Dock
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Fred Behrmann
> Athens Aquatics
> 37 W. Bridge Street
> Catskill, NY 12414    Phone:(518) 943-2630
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