Re: [Killietalk] Killietalk Digest, Vol 40, Issue 7,S. constanciae

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 Plan on about 3 months of incubation at peat wetness #3 per current beginners guide at 78dF for your Simpsonichthys contanciae eggs.Larry.--- On Sun 11/05, < killietalk-request at aka_org > wrote:From: [mailto: killietalk-request at aka_org]To: killietalk at aka_orgDate: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 17:25:24 -0500Subject: Killietalk Digest, Vol 40, Issue 7Send Killietalk mailing list submissions tokillietalk at aka_orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visithttp://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo/killietalkor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' tokillietalk-request at aka_orgYou can reach the person managing the list atkillietalk-owner at aka_orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of Killietalk digest..."Today's Topics:1. Re: java moss (ccarlile at aol_com)2. Re: java moss (Derek Parr)3. Re: Simpsonicthys Constancuae Barra de Sao Joao (Derek Parr)4. Re: java moss (R. Brice)5. Re: java moss (Mark R)6. Re: space and 
growth - interesting paradox (Mark R)7. Re: java moss (Panchax1957 at aol_com)8. Re: java moss (LeeH920226 at aol_com)9. Re: java moss (John Wubbolt)10. Re: java moss (Dennis Heltzel)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:50:31 -0500From: ccarlile at aol_comSubject: Re: [Killietalk] java mossTo: killietalk at aka_orgTo grow java moss: soft water, medium 2 high light, driftwood help, but no needed.Rob -----Original Message-----From: fraulels at videotron_caTo: killietalk at aka_orgSent: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 5:33 AMSubject: [Killietalk] java mossHi,If I want to set up a tank specifically to grow java moss, what would people suggest as a set-up?Gary Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk________________________________________________________________________Check out the new 
AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.------------------------------Message: 2Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 13:56:11 -0500From: Derek Parr Subject: Re: [Killietalk] java mossTo: killifish discussion list Standard fish tank with standard lighting. It always grows great in my low light killi and darter tanks. Tends to rot in my high light, CO2 and heavily fertilized tank.-derek parr...... Original Message .......On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:33:44 -0500 Gary Elson or Mary Frauley wrote:>Hi,>If I want to set up a tank specifically to grow java moss, what would people >suggest as a set-up?>>Gary >>>Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.>Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/>Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk------------------------------Message: 3Date: Sun, 0!
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Nov 2006 13:59:35 -0500From: Derek Parr Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Simpsonicthys Constancuae Barra de Sao JoaoTo: killifish discussion list Neahhh, I disagree. The internet has all the answers.Both the right and wrong ones and everything inbetween! ;]-derek parr...... Original Message .......On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 00:41:14 EST Grewsh at aol_com wrote:>I have recently received 2 pairs of this really nice fish They have grown up >nicely and I would like top Spawn them I know they are annuals and spawn in >peat but have no idea what the incubation period. O have seen conflicting >reports on water parameters. The interenet does not seem to have the answers. >Any help would be appreciated.>Henry>Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.>Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/>Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk------------------------------Message: 4Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 
14:40:25 -0500From: "R. Brice" Subject: Re: [Killietalk] java mossTo: "killifish discussion list" Low light with some fish.I have mine grow in a 55 gallon tank with adult angels (12)When the light is medium to high the tank is taken over by hair algae and I can't get it out of the java moss.Richard----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Parr" To: "killifish discussion list" Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 1:56 PMSubject: Re: [Killietalk] java moss> Standard fish tank with standard lighting. It always grows great in my> low light killi and darter tanks. Tends to rot in my high light, CO2 and> heavily fertilized tank.> -derek parr>> ...... Original Message .......> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:33:44 -0500 Gary Elson or Mary Frauley> wrote:>>Hi,>>If I want to set up a tank specifically to grow java moss, what would> people>>suggest as a set-up?>>>>Gary>>>>>>Join the AKA at 
http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.>>Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/>>Modify your subscription at> http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk>> Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/> Modify your subscription at > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk>> ------------------------------Message: 5Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:48:17 -0700From: "Mark R" Subject: Re: [Killietalk] java mossTo: "killifish discussion list" It's easy to grow and will adapt to pretty much any type of water. Thehigher the light, the more compact and dense the moss will grow but itdoesn't need a lot of light. If your moss starts to turn transparent, youneed to add some macro fertilizers (N, P, K). As with all plants, highoxygen and co2 content will please it greatly. Some current is beneficial.Most mosses don't handle very high 
temperatures well. Also, it seems to growprettier when tied to rock or wood - when left floating it grows stringy inall directions. 100% cotton thread is good for attaching it to things, as itwill slowly dissolve and eventually leave the moss rooted to whatever youtied it to.Here's a nifty little site dedicated to aquatic moss: http://aquamoss.net/ ,maybe that will help a bit.On 11/5/06, Gary Elson or Mary Frauley wrote:>> Hi,> If I want to set up a tank specifically to grow java moss, what would> people> suggest as a set-up?>> Gary>>> Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/> Modify your subscription at> http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk>------------------------------Message: 6Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 13:12:01 -0700From: "Mark R" Subject: Re: [Killietalk] space and growth - interesting paradoxTo: "killifish discussion list" Maybe also !
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genetic factor - you said he was already larger than the othersbefore you put him in his own tank.MarkOn 11/5/06, ROBERT ELLERMANN wrote:>> All his energy goes to growing rather than breeding and fighting.>> Bobby>> Killiefishjlh at aol_com wrote:> I have an interesting issue that has come up recently. In late June,> Trevor> Meyer hatched out 30 F. occidentalis fry from peat I received from Gordon> Zahn. I took five of the fry, to males and three females, and Trevor kept> the> rest. I placed mine in a ten gallon tank and fed them on baby brine,> cyclopeez, and frozen and freeze dried blood worms. One male seemed to> grow faster> than the others, and became aggressive with the other male, so I took the> aggressive fish out and placed him in a two gallon critter keeper by> himself.> The fish in my 2 gallon tanks receive baby brine, Cyclopeez and, every> second> day, grindel worms. Fish in the tens receive frozen blood 
worms, freeze> dried blood worms, freeze dried krill and baby brine, all once a day, as> well as> the grindels every second day. At this writing, the> F. occidentalis in the 10 are about 2 inches, full bodied and healthy. I> saw Trevor's fish, which are in a 75, and they are the same size. I> checked> the one male in the 2 gallon critter keeper the other day, and he is three> inches long and much fuller bodied than all of the others! He is halfway> to adult> size! I am wondering if anyone knows what could account for this> difference.>> Jack> Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/> Modify your subscription at> http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk>> Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/> Modify your subscription at> 
http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk>------------------------------Message: 7Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:07:15 ESTFrom: Panchax1957 at aol_comSubject: Re: [Killietalk] java mossTo: killietalk at aka_orgIn a message dated 11/5/2006 12:02:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Tarmack at clarityconnect_com writes:Low light with some fish.I have mine grow in a 55 gallon tank with adult angels (12)When the light is medium to high the tank is taken over by hair algae and I can't get it out of the java moss.RichardI concur with Richard,When I have java moss under strong light, I get tons of hair algae growing thru the java moss.It also does much better when rubber banded to a piece of driftwood.Ray------------------------------Message: 8Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:22:00 ESTFrom: LeeH920226 at aol_comSubject: Re: [Killietalk] java mossTo: killietalk at aka_orgIt grows in all but the following conditions for me1. Acid water (below 5.0) -- it turns brown and dies2. Warm water (above 80 degree!
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F) it turns to mush and diesIt grows really well under really cool conditions (below 50 degrees F) and seems to grow by itself without fish. Pond snails and Java Moss coexist really well and provide my favorite environment for raising small fry.On the other hand trying to grow it faster with more light doesn't seem to work.Lee HarperMedia PA------------------------------Message: 9Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 16:40:10 -0500From: BigJohnW at webtv_net (John Wubbolt)Subject: Re: [Killietalk] java mossTo: killietalk at aka_org (killifish discussion list)Hello GaryI have grown Java Moss in both soft and hard water. It does seem togrow better for me in water that is slightly alkaline. Best growth ihad was in a 55 gallon tank set up for some Xiphophorus Nezzies...Tank was lit with a shop light on 10 hrs a day and temps were about 75Fmost of the time. I also was growing Watersprite on the surface so thatcut down the intensity of the lights. In your montreal water itshould grow really well with 
medium light. A friend of mine grew hisin 20 gallon longs with CO? injection and the single bulb hood thatcovers most 20longs. His java moss was so lush and green it evenflowered for him, which i have never seen before or since. Good luck!!John------------------------------Message: 10Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2006 17:25:20 -0500From: Dennis Heltzel Subject: Re: [Killietalk] java mossTo: killifish discussion list John Wubbolt wrote:> His java moss was so lush and green it even> flowered for him, which i have never seen before or since. >> Good luck!!>> JohnThat's a botanical miracle, considering that mosses and ferns are incapable of flowering. They reproduce sexually by spores, not seeds. Perhaps he had them produce spores, which I can't recall seeing on my moss, but often on my Java Ferns.Dennis------------------------------To join the AKA see http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/Modify your 
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