Yes Emmy. He's a "NEWBIE". New to the AKA and new to Killi fish. He got his first 2 pair from me. Why the sarcasm? Ed Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9. Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/ Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk