It's that nasty little bugger that lives under a bridge and eats up all your fish after a fishing trip. He's just waiting there for you to cross with his supper. E Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9. Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/ Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk