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Re: [Killietalk] Thanks but No Thanks
Hi Laura,
Believe it or not there are some informative bits of information discussed
on killietalk from time to time. I like you have no place or time for the
petty bickering that goes back and forth on occasion. It is unfortunate that
the people doing the bickering can not keep it to themnselves or at least to
the ones involved. I do not know why they feel they must share it with
everyone. Please do not give up just yet. Rememeber the power of the DELETE
button.
George (In Ohio)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Bauman" <fsulawlb at comcast_net>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 10:36 AM
Subject: [Killietalk] Thanks but No Thanks
>I have just asked to be unsubscribed from this list. I joined the AKA and
> subscribed to killietalk to learn about killifish in hopes that I could
> responsibly start a killi tank. In the emails I've bothered to peruse,
> I've
> read nothing but political garbage and rantings about a conference. How
> educational.
>
> Fortunately, I did receive the AKA handbook for beginners, so all is not
> lost. I just wanted to share a newcomers take on the helpfulness and
> welcoming feeling of your group. I will no longer receive these messages,
> no
> replies back to me will probably not be transmitted.
>
> Laura in Florida
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: killietalk at aka_org
> Subject: Killietalk Digest, Vol 35, Issue 8
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: 1st Conventioneer's (fishscatterer at comcast_net)
> 2. Re: 1st Conventioneer's (Mark R)
> 3. Why new members leave and an idea for new members (L. Langione)
> 4. June ARK Meeting (Allan Semeit)
> 5. Mentoring newcomers is great idea. (Harry Specht)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 04:44:28 +0000
> From: fishscatterer at comcast_net
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
> To: killifish discussion list <killietalk at aka_org>
>
> You are right, Erny, many people are missing the point. Why is a person
> long KNOWN for his arrogance and many rude/curt reponses here on
> Killietalk
> is elected to our BOT? (not for me to name him, Erny can tell you, though
> most of you can figure out who it is). Maybe this person would have the
> decency to apologize for his inappropriate behavior and remarks to one of
> our AKA members, but from all I've heard from other members and a few of
> his responses to people here on Killietalk, I doubt it. We had 2 BOT
> members resign within a short period of time of each other, you have to
> wonder if they felt "pushed" off the BOT. Hard to know, still some good
> members serving on the BOT despite one who probably should not be
> serving--great killie knowledge but lacking in skill dealing with
> membership
> in an appropriate manner.
>
> Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention, Erny, hopefully more
> people will understand what you are getting at.
>
> Jim Hinkle
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Erny" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>
>> I'm not sure where some of the responses are coming from.
>> The situation has nothing to do with being impatient to get the
>> JAKA; it has nothing to do with the volunteer efforts of the BOT
>> and other people; has nothing to do with "picking a fight" or
>> "broadcasting insults"; it has to do with an inappropriate response
>> and insult by a BOT member in response to a question addressed
>> to the editor of JAKA. If you would like I can send you all of the
>> e-mail. It really makes no difference; I'm simply waiting for this BOT
>> member to make good on his offer to buy me out.
>>
>> EM
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joe Bulterman" <jbulterman at yahoo_com>
>> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
>>
>>
>> >I learned two important things from my training as an auditor in public
>> > accounting: 1. know what to hold on to and what to let go of
>> > (evidence).
>> > 2. To get the right answers I need to talk to the right
> people.
>> >
>> > There are 9 members of the BOT including the Chairman. If one person
>> > upsets
>> > you consider perhaps trying another person. I believe you have my
> e-mail
>> > address?
>> >
>> > JoeB
>> >
>> > --- Erny <emay1 at wi_rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> There also were some personal issues that the editor, Mr. Ostrow
>> >> needed
>> >> to attend to. He informed me of this, I expressed my appreciation and
>> >> suggested
>> >> that keeping the membership informed would be appreciated. Shortly
> after
>> >> that
>> >> I received my disease designation and offer of buyout from a BOT
> member.
>> >> The moral of the incident is, don't ask questions.
>> >>
>> >> EM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Joe Bulterman" <jbulterman at yahoo_com>
>> >> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:32 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > My understanding of the delay in the JAKA was that there was a
>> >> > personnel
>> >> > change/addition to the JAKA staff and there is another change
> currently
>> >> > in
>> >> > the
>> >> > works. Hopefully this change won't affect the timing of future
> JAKA's.
>> >> > Over the years I have been involved in many a heated debate
>> >> > involving
>> >> > issues,
>> >> > real or imagined, affecting the AKA. Now that I live overseas and
>> >> > am
>> >> > distant
>> >> > from many of those prior thoughts, I think I have calmed down a
> little
>> >> > and
>> >> > I
>> >> > can see the big picture a little more clearly - or so it appears.
>> >> > Anyone can e-mail me as to the current workings of the BOT and I
>> >> > will
>> >> > answer
>> >> > honestly to the best of my understanding. Personally, I tend to
> error
>> >> > on
>> >> > too
>> >> > much transparancy.
>> >> >
>> >> > JoeB
>> >> >
>> >> > --- Erny <emay1 at wi_rr.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> That is the offer I received from a BOT member after
>> >> >> I had asked the editor why JAKA was running two
>> >> >> issues behind. All you have to do is question something
>> >> >> and you receive a disease designation and an offer to
>> >> >> be bought out. Try it; see if it works for you
>> >> >> EM
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Tom Payne" <paynedds at earthlink_net>
>> >> >> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:50 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > "send you a check from my personal account to make a cancer
>> >> >> > like you go away".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Huh? What am I missing here?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Tom Payne
>> >> >> > 10100 Hoover Woods Rd.
>> >> >> > Galena, Ohio 43021
>> >> >> > 740-965-9311
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > matter."
>> >> >> > --Martin Luther King, Jr.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Join the AKA at
>> >> >> > http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> >> >> > Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> >> >> > Modify your subscription at
>> >> >> > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Join the AKA at
> http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> >> >> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> >> >> Modify your subscription at
>> >> >> http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Joe Bulterman, CPA/CELTA
>> >> > Raffles-H.U. International College
>> >> > No 2 Teaching Bldg, 3rd Floor, Huizhou University
>> >> > Jinshan Lake Campus, Mazhuang, Huizhou City
>> >> > Guangdong Province, CHINA 516000
>> >> > +86 1341 453 9710 (Mobil)
>> >> > +86 752 252 9498 (office)
>> >> > Join the AKA at
> http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> >> > Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> >> > Modify your subscription at
>> >> > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> >> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> >> Modify your subscription at
>> >> http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Joe Bulterman, CPA/CELTA
>> > Raffles-H.U. International College
>> > No 2 Teaching Bldg, 3rd Floor, Huizhou University
>> > Jinshan Lake Campus, Mazhuang, Huizhou City
>> > Guangdong Province, CHINA 516000
>> > +86 1341 453 9710 (Mobil)
>> > +86 752 252 9498 (office)
>> > Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> > Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> > Modify your subscription at
>> > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>> >
>>
>>
>> Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> Modify your subscription at
>> http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 23:02:30 -0600
> From: "Mark R" <oldsan at gmail_com>
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>
> C'mon guys, it's all about the fish.
>
> On 6/2/06, fishscatterer at comcast_net <fishscatterer at comcast_net> wrote:
>>
>> You are right, Erny, many people are missing the point. Why is a person
>> long KNOWN for his arrogance and many rude/curt reponses here on
> Killietalk
>> is elected to our BOT? (not for me to name him, Erny can tell you, though
>> most of you can figure out who it is). Maybe this person would have the
>> decency to apologize for his inappropriate behavior and remarks to one of
>> our AKA members, but from all I've heard from other members and a few of
>> his responses to people here on Killietalk, I doubt it. We had 2 BOT
>> members resign within a short period of time of each other, you have to
>> wonder if they felt "pushed" off the BOT. Hard to know, still some good
>> members serving on the BOT despite one who probably should not be
>> serving--great killie knowledge but lacking in skill dealing with
> membership
>> in an appropriate manner.
>>
>> Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention, Erny, hopefully more
>> people will understand what you are getting at.
>>
>> Jim Hinkle
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "Erny" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>
>> > I'm not sure where some of the responses are coming from.
>> > The situation has nothing to do with being impatient to get the
>> > JAKA; it has nothing to do with the volunteer efforts of the BOT
>> > and other people; has nothing to do with "picking a fight" or
>> > "broadcasting insults"; it has to do with an inappropriate response
>> > and insult by a BOT member in response to a question addressed
>> > to the editor of JAKA. If you would like I can send you all of the
>> > e-mail. It really makes no difference; I'm simply waiting for this BOT
>> > member to make good on his offer to buy me out.
>> >
>> > EM
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Joe Bulterman" <jbulterman at yahoo_com>
>> > To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:40 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
>> >
>> >
>> > >I learned two important things from my training as an auditor in
>> > >public
>> > > accounting: 1. know what to hold on to and what to let go of
>> (evidence).
>> > > 2. To get the right answers I need to talk to the right
>> people.
>> > >
>> > > There are 9 members of the BOT including the Chairman. If one person
>> > > upsets
>> > > you consider perhaps trying another person. I believe you have my
>> e-mail
>> > > address?
>> > >
>> > > JoeB
>> > >
>> > > --- Erny <emay1 at wi_rr.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> There also were some personal issues that the editor, Mr. Ostrow
>> needed
>> > >> to attend to. He informed me of this, I expressed my appreciation
>> > >> and
>> > >> suggested
>> > >> that keeping the membership informed would be appreciated. Shortly
>> after
>> > >> that
>> > >> I received my disease designation and offer of buyout from a BOT
>> member.
>> > >> The moral of the incident is, don't ask questions.
>> > >>
>> > >> EM
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Joe Bulterman" <jbulterman at yahoo_com>
>> > >> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>> > >> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:32 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > My understanding of the delay in the JAKA was that there was a
>> > >> > personnel
>> > >> > change/addition to the JAKA staff and there is another change
>> currently
>> > >> > in
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > works. Hopefully this change won't affect the timing of future
>> JAKA's.
>> > >> > Over the years I have been involved in many a heated debate
>> involving
>> > >> > issues,
>> > >> > real or imagined, affecting the AKA. Now that I live overseas and
>> am
>> > >> > distant
>> > >> > from many of those prior thoughts, I think I have calmed down a
>> little
>> > >> > and
>> > >> > I
>> > >> > can see the big picture a little more clearly - or so it appears.
>> > >> > Anyone can e-mail me as to the current workings of the BOT and I
>> will
>> > >> > answer
>> > >> > honestly to the best of my understanding. Personally, I tend to
>> error
>> > >> > on
>> > >> > too
>> > >> > much transparancy.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > JoeB
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --- Erny <emay1 at wi_rr.com> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> That is the offer I received from a BOT member after
>> > >> >> I had asked the editor why JAKA was running two
>> > >> >> issues behind. All you have to do is question something
>> > >> >> and you receive a disease designation and an offer to
>> > >> >> be bought out. Try it; see if it works for you
>> > >> >> EM
>> > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >> From: "Tom Payne" <paynedds at earthlink_net>
>> > >> >> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:50 PM
>> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > "send you a check from my personal account to make a cancer
>> > >> >> > like you go away".
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Huh? What am I missing here?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > --
>> > >> >> > Tom Payne
>> > >> >> > 10100 Hoover Woods Rd.
>> > >> >> > Galena, Ohio 43021
>> > >> >> > 740-965-9311
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
>> that
>> > >> >> > matter."
>> > >> >> > --Martin Luther King, Jr.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Join the AKA at
>> > >> >> > http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> > >> >> > Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> > >> >> > Modify your subscription at
>> > >> >> > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Join the AKA at
>> http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> > >> >> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> > >> >> Modify your subscription at
>> > >> >> http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Joe Bulterman, CPA/CELTA
>> > >> > Raffles-H.U. International College
>> > >> > No 2 Teaching Bldg, 3rd Floor, Huizhou University
>> > >> > Jinshan Lake Campus, Mazhuang, Huizhou City
>> > >> > Guangdong Province, CHINA 516000
>> > >> > +86 1341 453 9710 (Mobil)
>> > >> > +86 752 252 9498 (office)
>> > >> > Join the AKA at
>> http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> > >> > Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> > >> > Modify your subscription at
>> > >> > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Join the AKA at
>> > >> http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9
>> .
>> > >> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> > >> Modify your subscription at
>> > >> http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Joe Bulterman, CPA/CELTA
>> > > Raffles-H.U. International College
>> > > No 2 Teaching Bldg, 3rd Floor, Huizhou University
>> > > Jinshan Lake Campus, Mazhuang, Huizhou City
>> > > Guangdong Province, CHINA 516000
>> > > +86 1341 453 9710 (Mobil)
>> > > +86 752 252 9498 (office)
>> > > Join the AKA at
>> > > http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> > > Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> > > Modify your subscription at
>> > > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> > Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> > Modify your subscription at
>> > http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>>
>>
>> Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> Modify your subscription at
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>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 02:05:37 -0400
> From: "L. Langione" <lonlangione at suscom_net>
> Subject: [Killietalk] Why new members leave and an idea for new
> members
> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have been following the talk concerning the turn-over of new
> members and the size of the AKA membership. As membership chairman, I
> really
> do not think we have a serious problem with the size of the membership. We
> basically have the same amount of members as the ACA. And by the way
> folks,
> the ACA does not have or publish a roster. As for turn over, you will
> always
> have attrition with any group. I have been doing this job for almost a
> year,
> and here are some reasons people have given me for dropping out of the
> AKA.
> These were from e-mails that I sent to people who did not re-join. They
> went
> back to school, got divorced, thought they would make this their hobby but
> realized they didn't have the time needed, some died, moved and sold
> everything they had, joined to get killifish and were not able to find
> what
> they wanted, just got tired of their fish, went into saltwater instead of
> freshwater, some were battling illness, went back into cichlids, decided
> to
> down size, decided to breed dogs instead and I have to spend more time
> with
> my family. Only one negative response and it was he joined a local
> affiliate
> club and couldn't see spending $26.00 a year to belong to the AKA anymore.
> I
> really think there is entirely to much emphasis on playing the blame game
> and attacking certain people for something that really is not a huge
> problem.
> One of the biggest reasons I have heard from people in the past
> year
> for joining is, "I used to belong to the AKA many years ago, and now that
> my
> kids are grown I am going to get back into killies." This is a huge trend,
> people coming back. For the past several years, the freshwater hobby has
> been in a slump. We are starting to see a come back in the hobby.
> One of the suggestions I made to be discussed at the convention,( I
> could not attend this year), was to come up with a group of experienced
> killifish keepers to mentor new members. There are a lot of "old timers"
> and
> "experienced youngins" out there who could be on this committee. Call it
> the
> AKA" Welcoming Committee" As I enter new members, I could forward their
> e-mail address to the committee and they could e-mail the new member and
> answer their questions. And don't give me this crap that that's what
> killitalk is for. I'm talking about a one on one type of contact. New
> members are sometimes apprehensive to ask questions because they are
> afraid
> of looking stupid. But on a one to one basis they would not feel as
> intimidated.
> I am really tired of all this finger pointing and trash talking. It
> is about the fish AND the people. The fish we keep are more exclusive than
> and other type of fish in the hobby. You go into any LFS or big box store
> and you will find 20 species of cichlids, 20 types of livebearers, all
> types
> of rainbow fish, scads of tetras, lots of catfish but rarely any
> killifish.
> It is up to us to educate people about killies.
> This is a good organization and I say we can make it better. But
> this crap of arguing does not solve any problems.Let's see if the e-mail
> promotes a more positive approach to this whole situation. In closing I
> nominate Erny May, Harry Specht and Curt Smith to be part of the Welcoming
> Committee.
>
>
> Lonny Langione - AKA Membership Chairman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Curtis Smith" <cskillies at hotmail_com>
> To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:10 PM
> Subject: [Killietalk] greeting group
>
>
>> I think there's a lot of merit in Lee's suggestion. I, for one, would
>> gladly volunteer to greet and steer first time attendees. Such members
>> could work in conjuntion with the registration table and meet
>> "first-time"
>> attendees when they register. Once they are introduced and on speaking
>> terms with several members, the greeters couyld return to the
>> registration
>> table to pick up another first-timer.
>>
>> I think there may be merit in reserving a space or two at each banquet
> table
>> for these members as well.
>>
>> By the way, I observed Dr. Specht on Friday taking the time to speak at
>> length with each person that registered. And, they did have special
>> markings on their name tag. You can't blame Christina for not
> introducing
>> them to others as she was a first-time attendee too and didn't know we
>> rogues until later. The Florida group had their act together as the
>> pre-registered members had their bags of materials lined up, even with
>> the
>> numbered auction plate inside. I think I did offend Christina by
>> calling
>> her the "bag lady", but it was all in fun pretty lady and no harm
> intended!
>>
>> I especially sought out Lisa as I knew she was coming and I also knew
>> this
>> was her first time. Hopefully I introduced her to all the right people
> and
>> even ate breakfast with her once. By the way, I still owe her a cup of
>> coffee! I looked for Loraine but never saw her.
>>
>> Curt Smith
>>
>>
>> Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
>> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
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> http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 06:08:30 -0700
> From: "Allan Semeit" <azkillie at cox_net>
> Subject: [Killietalk] June ARK Meeting
> To: "AKA KillieTalk" <KillieTalk at AKA_Org>
>
> The June meeting of the Arizona Rivulin Keepers will be on Saturday, June
> 10th. We will gather at LaBella's Pizza and Pasta (NW corner of Rural and
> Ray Roads) in south Tempe about 6:30 PM. The meeting is free and, if you
> are in the area, we would welcome the opportunity to greet you.
>
> The first half hour is a time to set up, socialize, and munch on Italian
> food (at your cost). We will follow that with a short business meeting
> (if
> needed), a raffle featuring an assortment of products from several
> manufacturers, a video program about killies, and then our Trade Table.
> This month we will supplement the Trade Table with a variety of killies
> purchased by the club at the AKA Convention. All attendees are encouraged
> to bring their killies, other unusual small fish, aquatic plants, live
> food
> cultures, etc. for the Trade Table.
>
> If you can attend, we'll see you next Saturday!
>
> Allan from Arizona
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 09:50:32 -0400
> From: "Harry Specht" <aus62 at comcast_net>
> Subject: [Killietalk] Mentoring newcomers is great idea.
> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>
> Good idea, Lonny. It was tried many years ago, but never really
> implemented
> for some reason. After all, having an experienced person discuss and a
> dvise
>
> a newcomer would be most helpful to prevent disappointment over losing new
> killifish. Truly, the whole premise of the AKA was to bring together folks
> interested in killifish to learn from one another and exchange these
> wonderful fish.
>
> I would suggest, Lonny, you conosider sending the info on a newcomer to an
> affiliate club in his area -- or as close as possible. Permit the
> affiliate
> club president recommend a member to act as mentor as he knows his (or
> her) club members.. A letter or note to affilaite clubs for their input
> about this scheme is in order before trying this system At any rate,
> remember the KISS priniciple. It works
>
>
>
> Harry Specht
>
>
> Sarasota, FL
>
>
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