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Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
You are right, Erny, many people are missing the point. Why is a person long KNOWN for his arrogance and many rude/curt reponses here on Killietalk is elected to our BOT? (not for me to name him, Erny can tell you, though most of you can figure out who it is). Maybe this person would have the decency to apologize for his inappropriate behavior and remarks to one of our AKA members, but from all I've heard from other members and a few of his responses to people here on Killietalk, I doubt it. We had 2 BOT members resign within a short period of time of each other, you have to wonder if they felt "pushed" off the BOT. Hard to know, still some good members serving on the BOT despite one who probably should not be serving--great killie knowledge but lacking in skill dealing with membership in an appropriate manner.
Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention, Erny, hopefully more people will understand what you are getting at.
Jim Hinkle
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Erny" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>
> I'm not sure where some of the responses are coming from.
> The situation has nothing to do with being impatient to get the
> JAKA; it has nothing to do with the volunteer efforts of the BOT
> and other people; has nothing to do with "picking a fight" or
> "broadcasting insults"; it has to do with an inappropriate response
> and insult by a BOT member in response to a question addressed
> to the editor of JAKA. If you would like I can send you all of the
> e-mail. It really makes no difference; I'm simply waiting for this BOT
> member to make good on his offer to buy me out.
>
> EM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Bulterman" <jbulterman at yahoo_com>
> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
>
>
> >I learned two important things from my training as an auditor in public
> > accounting: 1. know what to hold on to and what to let go of (evidence).
> > 2. To get the right answers I need to talk to the right people.
> >
> > There are 9 members of the BOT including the Chairman. If one person
> > upsets
> > you consider perhaps trying another person. I believe you have my e-mail
> > address?
> >
> > JoeB
> >
> > --- Erny <emay1 at wi_rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There also were some personal issues that the editor, Mr. Ostrow needed
> >> to attend to. He informed me of this, I expressed my appreciation and
> >> suggested
> >> that keeping the membership informed would be appreciated. Shortly after
> >> that
> >> I received my disease designation and offer of buyout from a BOT member.
> >> The moral of the incident is, don't ask questions.
> >>
> >> EM
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Joe Bulterman" <jbulterman at yahoo_com>
> >> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:32 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
> >>
> >>
> >> > My understanding of the delay in the JAKA was that there was a
> >> > personnel
> >> > change/addition to the JAKA staff and there is another change currently
> >> > in
> >> > the
> >> > works. Hopefully this change won't affect the timing of future JAKA's.
> >> > Over the years I have been involved in many a heated debate involving
> >> > issues,
> >> > real or imagined, affecting the AKA. Now that I live overseas and am
> >> > distant
> >> > from many of those prior thoughts, I think I have calmed down a little
> >> > and
> >> > I
> >> > can see the big picture a little more clearly - or so it appears.
> >> > Anyone can e-mail me as to the current workings of the BOT and I will
> >> > answer
> >> > honestly to the best of my understanding. Personally, I tend to error
> >> > on
> >> > too
> >> > much transparancy.
> >> >
> >> > JoeB
> >> >
> >> > --- Erny <emay1 at wi_rr.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> That is the offer I received from a BOT member after
> >> >> I had asked the editor why JAKA was running two
> >> >> issues behind. All you have to do is question something
> >> >> and you receive a disease designation and an offer to
> >> >> be bought out. Try it; see if it works for you
> >> >> EM
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Tom Payne" <paynedds at earthlink_net>
> >> >> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:50 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] 1st Conventioneer's
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > "send you a check from my personal account to make a cancer
> >> >> > like you go away".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Huh? What am I missing here?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Tom Payne
> >> >> > 10100 Hoover Woods Rd.
> >> >> > Galena, Ohio 43021
> >> >> > 740-965-9311
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
> >> >> > matter."
> >> >> > --Martin Luther King, Jr.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Join the AKA at
> >> >> > http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
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> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Joe Bulterman, CPA/CELTA
> >> > Raffles-H.U. International College
> >> > No 2 Teaching Bldg, 3rd Floor, Huizhou University
> >> > Jinshan Lake Campus, Mazhuang, Huizhou City
> >> > Guangdong Province, CHINA 516000
> >> > +86 1341 453 9710 (Mobil)
> >> > +86 752 252 9498 (office)
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> > Joe Bulterman, CPA/CELTA
> > Raffles-H.U. International College
> > No 2 Teaching Bldg, 3rd Floor, Huizhou University
> > Jinshan Lake Campus, Mazhuang, Huizhou City
> > Guangdong Province, CHINA 516000
> > +86 1341 453 9710 (Mobil)
> > +86 752 252 9498 (office)
> > Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/aka/modules/content/index.php?id=9.
> > Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
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> >
>
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