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Re: [Killietalk] WCW Show results
Hi all,
Barry wrote:
>Personally I'd like to see only 3-4 of these such that they are all good and all >successful. I can see one in the west (WCW), one in the NE (NEW), one in >the mid-west (?)
(end quote)
If WAKO isn't a mini-convention, what is it? For me, WAKO is my convention, as I am not able to travel far. It is, next to the convention itself, the place where the most fish are shown and sold (I believe).
On a related note, perhaps shows should be more spaced. For instance, here in northern IN, we have all our nearby shows in the spring until Detroit (Sept) then WAKO (Nov). I went to Killie Karnival, ExK, and CKA all in the span of about a month, with numerous local clubs doing their spring auctions in between. I assume most local aquarium societies have spring auctions, and that many of us have other interests outside of killies, and many tend to also attend these events. This past weekend was my first weekend since early March where I didn't have some fishy event to go to. But I don't have another one until ACA in July, if I am able to go. Just seems to me that a lot of stuff is going on during a short time, then it's dead...then it starts in the fall, ends with WAKO, and it's dead again. I understand the dead part of the winter, but we could easily space some stuff out a bit better.
JMHO, and some rambling,
Gary
Barry Cooper <bjc3 at centurytel_net> wrote: It's true that attendance was down on the previous two years but it was
not disastrous. I don't know what the "record low" for WCW is, as NWK
has only hosted the show for the last 3 years, with much help from
members of BAKA and other west coast clubs, I should add. I am told by
BAKA "old-timers" that there have been lean years before. The reason for
the relatively low attendance this year probably has more to do with
coincidence that anything else. A lot of our regulars could not attend
because of business or personal commitments or illness. There isn't much
we can do about that. I will also admit that we had a "down" year in
terms of the ability of NWK members to work hard on attracting
attendees, for similar reasons. That is not to denigrate the efforts of
those who did work on preparing for and running the show.
We were initially discouraged because it did not appear that we'd get a
lot of attendees, but quite a few turned up "at the last minute" and the
attendance for the auction was good. I think the feeling in NWK is that
we want to see WCW continue and that we (I mean everyone involved) need
to be a little better organized in getting ready for it. We don't feel
that one somewhat low year is necessarily a predictor of the future. If
we had two or three successive years of bad attendance, then we'd be
worried.
Everyone will have seen Peter's editorial in JAKA about the need for the
AKA to move forward. I agree with him that we need to learn how to be
successful in the environment in which we find ourselves now. How to
organize and exploit regional and national shows to benefit the hobby
and the organization is an important component of that. My own feeling
is that we should encourage a modest number of large regional shows in
addition to the convention. At the moment, I don't think the convention
is threatened by the "mini-conventions", as they have come to be called.
However, perhaps the mini-conventions threaten one another. I think is
is very likely that most AKA members and others will elect to attend a
limited number of events, so that if we were to have many
mini-conventions, they would suffer from competition amongst themselves.
Personally I'd like to see only 3-4 of these such that they are all good
and all successful. I can see one in the west (WCW), one in the NE
(NEW), one in the mid-west (?) and possibly one in the SE being
reasonable. In my opinion, it is up to the affiliate clubs to organize
such a mini-convention for their region. In other words, for this scheme
to work, the affiliates need to collaborate and share in the benefits.
That might mean some clubs incorporating their own individual shows into
a regional mini-convention.
This is a good topic for discussion. Perhaps we should set up a forum
under the Member Forums on the AKA site in order to continue the
discussion in an organized way, such that the thread can be easily followed.
Barry
Barry J. Cooper
Sweet Home, OR 97386
Karl Doering wrote:
> Barry the reason i made that statement i heard that your show had a record
> low in People turn out & show participants. Right Or Wrong
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Cooper"
> To: "killifish discussion list"
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] WCW Show results
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>> I have been out of town. That is why the results aren't posted yet.
>> We'll get them posted as soon as I can catch up.
>>
>> For the record, I don't think that is why people are losing interest
>> and, for that matter, I'm not convinced that people are losing
>> interest, in particular in the killie hobby as a part of the larger
>> aquarium hobby. My feeling is that we are holding our own in comparison
>> to other branches of the fresh water aquarium hobby. That is not to say
>> that we should rest on our laurels. We should continue to expose people
>> to killies as an interesting group and continue to do our best to
>> recruit people to the hobby and the AKA. Personally I think that happens
>> mostly at the grass roots level not because we do or don't post show
>> results immediately. The grass roots level includes such things as
>> trying to encourage local stores to keep some killies, talking to people
>> in stores when the opportunity arises, being active in local aquarium
>> societies and so on. In other words, it is the "work" of individual
>> members that attracts people to the hobby.
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> Barry J. Cooper
>> Sweet Home, OR 97386
>>
>>
>>
>> Karl Doering wrote:
>>
>>> I can't find the 2006 NWW results????May be Thats part of the people are
>>> loosing interest???????
>>> ----- Original Message -----
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>>> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] WCW Show results
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