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Re: [Killietalk] Couple of questions



Hi Bob,
  Wouldn't replacing low TDS water with low TDS water be less likely to  shock?  You'd think if harder water was used, it would range in  hardness more.  Though a small change in the TDS of low TDS water,  it would be a fairly high percentage change...
  Still pondering,
  Gary
  P.S. Yes, Rob, he breeds them often.  Now he has a reliable way of  raising fry, and some of his rhinoloricaria are in my 10 gallon now :)

Robert Goldstein <rgoldstein at rjgaCarolina_com> wrote:  Using RO water WOULD TDS shock a fish, if anything would. If you don't want 
to shock them, use calcium or magnesium rich water.  I used to breed all 
kinds of loricariids, but it resulted from large amounts of cooked 
vegetables and massive (75%) water changes every two or three days, whenever 
the water started clouding up. I learned this from Tim Adkins in Pittsburgh.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Hoover" 
To: "killifish discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Couple of questions


> Hi all,
>  I have a friend that regularly breeds his 
> farowellas/sturisomas/rhinoloricarias.  Seems like every time I go  over 
> there, he's got another clutch of eggs and some itty-bitty  ones.  He does 
> do fairly large water changes, but with mostly RO  water.  The fish get 
> algae wafers and lots of wood.  The wood  seems to be an integral part of 
> their diet.  His spawn on or next  to the heater, and the male guards them 
> well.  I think it's a  combination of diet and clean water that keeps them 
> going.  He  does make sure the water temp is similar during a water 
> change.   And using mainly RO would not TDS shock a fish, I think.
>  Hope this helps,
>  Gary
>
> David sanchez  wrote:  "Now I know why I couldn't 
> keep them going. I changed 40-50% of the water
> weekly in my tanks."
>
> I think we can have a case of over generalized information here. ken 
> stated
> his died from abrupt water changes. Perhaps TDS shock? Breeding will only
> occur with frequent partial water changes from my experience. In fact 
> after
> water changes eggs were laid frequently.
>
> This is a riverine species so I would caution those that want success with
> them to read this and think they will benefit from a lack of water 
> changes.
> I did not find that to be true. Also I never saw any such reaction to 
> water
> changes so I think we need to precede with caution here. ken may have had 
> a
> ton of other variables that caused the demise of his fish. Anyway I just
> wanted to further elaborate on my breeding report with that species.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Payne"
>
> To: "killifish discussion list"
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Couple of questions
>
>
>> Bev Doyle, who passed away a year or so ago, produced farrowellas on a
>> regular basis in her angel/discus operation near Newark, Ohio. She had a
>> spring water source and all her tanks were flow-through, so water
>> parameters were constant and fresh. She always had blanched vegetable
>> matter for them to munch on, mostly zucchini and cukes. They were
>> produced from groups of adults, 5-6/ tank. The male seemed to protect
>> the egg mass that looked like caraway seeds on the glass, and he would
>> "crack" the eggs when they matured to release the fry. Great
>> glass-cleaners, but, as Bev told me, that's not enough to support them.
>> I had them in several plant spawning killie tanks and they did not seem
>> to affect the egg production in mops, so I doubt they ate eggs. Mostly
>> vegetarian diet.
>>
>> Now I know why I couldn't keep them going. I changed 40-50% of the water
>> weekly in my tanks.
>>
>> Tom Payne,
>> gloomy Galena, Ohio
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