Re: [Killietalk] Couple of questions

["Robert Goldstein" <rgoldstein at rjgacarolina_com>]

Using RO water WOULD TDS shock a fish, if anything would. If you don't want 
to shock them, use calcium or magnesium rich water.  I used to breed all 
kinds of loricariids, but it resulted from large amounts of cooked 
vegetables and massive (75%) water changes every two or three days, whenever 
the water started clouding up. I learned this from Tim Adkins in Pittsburgh.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Hoover" <gmh52389 at yahoo_com>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Couple of questions


> Hi all,
>  I have a friend that regularly breeds his 
> farowellas/sturisomas/rhinoloricarias.  Seems like every time I go  over 
> there, he's got another clutch of eggs and some itty-bitty  ones.  He does 
> do fairly large water changes, but with mostly RO  water.  The fish get 
> algae wafers and lots of wood.  The wood  seems to be an integral part of 
> their diet.  His spawn on or next  to the heater, and the male guards them 
> well.  I think it's a  combination of diet and clean water that keeps them 
> going.  He  does make sure the water temp is similar during a water 
> change.   And using mainly RO would not TDS shock a fish, I think.
>  Hope this helps,
>  Gary
>
> David sanchez <barbax66 at peoplepc_com> wrote:  "Now I know why I couldn't 
> keep them going. I changed 40-50% of the water
> weekly in my tanks."
>
> I think we can have a case of over generalized information here. ken 
> stated
> his died from abrupt water changes. Perhaps TDS shock? Breeding will only
> occur with frequent partial water changes from my experience. In fact 
> after
> water changes eggs were laid frequently.
>
> This is a riverine species so I would caution those that want success with
> them to read this and think they will benefit from a lack of water 
> changes.
> I did not find that to be true. Also I never saw any such reaction to 
> water
> changes so I think we need to precede with caution here. ken may have had 
> a
> ton of other variables that caused the demise of his fish. Anyway I just
> wanted to further elaborate on my breeding report with that species.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Payne"
>
> To: "killifish discussion list"
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Couple of questions
>
>
>> Bev Doyle, who passed away a year or so ago, produced farrowellas on a
>> regular basis in her angel/discus operation near Newark, Ohio. She had a
>> spring water source and all her tanks were flow-through, so water
>> parameters were constant and fresh. She always had blanched vegetable
>> matter for them to munch on, mostly zucchini and cukes. They were
>> produced from groups of adults, 5-6/ tank. The male seemed to protect
>> the egg mass that looked like caraway seeds on the glass, and he would
>> "crack" the eggs when they matured to release the fry. Great
>> glass-cleaners, but, as Bev told me, that's not enough to support them.
>> I had them in several plant spawning killie tanks and they did not seem
>> to affect the egg production in mops, so I doubt they ate eggs. Mostly
>> vegetarian diet.
>>
>> Now I know why I couldn't keep them going. I changed 40-50% of the water
>> weekly in my tanks.
>>
>> Tom Payne,
>> gloomy Galena, Ohio
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