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Hello David!
Thought I would answer here as well.. I have a pet/fish store here on the
Oregon coast and we get a strain every so often of velvet (Oödinium) that is
particularly resistant to copper. I have to use a combination of malachite
and formalin to get the job done, and it can take up to a week at full
exposure to get the little critters off the host. It isn't to un common for
our customers to treat for weeks and not have success! Fortunately, we don't
see this little bug in our fish room but once in a great wile!
Markus
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lains" <david at zfin_org>
To: "'killifish discussion list'" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Nostalgia, et...
> Hi Lonny
>
> At least up here in the NW the disease that was called supper ich turned
> out
> to be in parasitic copepod. It is very easily treated with dimilin a
> chitin
> inhibitor. This bug seems to come and go but the trick is to know that it
> has 10 stages of development and only it's 10th female is parasitic.
>
> Fish are fine in the morning and are literally melting down by the
> evening.
> I've lost several long time species to it. Now I treat with dimilin every
> 6
> months or so and it's hopefully out of the fishroom.
>
> Do you know another disease as supper ich? What are it's symptoms?
>
> Lee's still makes their little simple economy box filters. I prefer them
> over sponge filters as they are much easier to clean and you can vary the
> media if necessary.
>
> Best Fishes
> David Lains <}}}><
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: killietalk-bounces+david=zfin_org at aka.org
> [mailto:killietalk-bounces+david=zfin_org at aka.org] On Behalf Of
> lonlangione at suscom_net
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:41 AM
> To: ken_combs at sbcglobal.net; killifish discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Nostalgia, et...
>
> Ken,
>
> Ich is still around, as a matter of fact it has "mutated" to what some
> call "super ich". Having owned a LFS for 12 years and having to close it
> in
> 1996 because of the superstores, I have watched the business end of the
> hobby go to hell. Large corporations bought up distributers and also
> manufacturers. And they moved out the "slow" selling stuff that hobbyists
> used to use. I have started to work on an article to submit to TFH or
> someone titled, "Where have all the shops gone..."
> This is how bad it has gotten. I'll be 50 this year.
> I've been keeping fish since I was 15. I walked into That Fish Place the
> other day and asked a young clerk where the box filters were. He took me
> back to the wet / dry filters. I said no, I'm looking for box filters,
> little plastic boxes that you put into a tank and fill with fluff and
> charcoal. He looked at me and said," Oh yeah, I heard of those, they used
> to
> use them in the old times....."
> Well I finally found them, they only had 4 on the shelf.
> I'm hoping these aren't the last four...
> And yes, Metaframe once owned by toy great Mattel is gone. I was
> driving a back country road the other day, and I passed a pile of junk the
> homeowner had out for trash. On top was a Metaframe, 5 gallon metalframed
> tank with slate bottom. Looked like new, had a small crack in the one
> side.
> It is in my fishroom now ;)
>
> Lonny
>
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:58:08 -0500
> "Ken" <ken_combs at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Just musings while stuck in phone menu world....
>>
>> -Remember the 70's?...whatever happened to ich? Where the h*ll did it
>>go and when was the last time you've seen it?...just dawned on me; Ich
>>isn't reared it's ugly head in my tanks or at the LFS in a looong
>>while (remember?; you could bet on seeing "speckled" gouramis at
>>Wal-Mart, something's amiss as I doubt they've cleaned up their act
>>that much already
>><chuckle>)
>>
>> -remember "hole-in-the head"...is that still around? Or is it just
>>renamed "Hex"?.. ain't heard from that one either in a while; might be
>>the circles one hangs in, kind of like a non-killienut almost never
>>see's velvet...
>>
>> -no scientific revelation here; but seems these aquatic diseases
>>change over the course of the decades...seemed as you visited the LFS
>>circa 90ish, you started seeing "wasting disease" all of a sudden
>>about 90ish...personally, never saw a single fish with it before then,
>>now seems it's pretty common (esp. amongst danios & livebearers)
>>
>> -Same goes for the larger gill parasites & anchor worms, et....used to
>>be "Lifebearer" & "Clout" were once common stock items at most LFS,
>>not sure they've been adequately replaced those products, as you
>>still see them, just not 4 "pegboards" worth anymore...in days of
>>yore, you could count on seeing at least one anchor worm hanging off a
>>feeder goldfish...I'm speculating the outdoor farmers may have done
>>something to lower the incidence
>>
>> -Whatever happened to "Aquatic Warehouse" (or whomever had those 2
>>page ads in FAMA)
>>
>> -Is Metaframe defunct? O'Dell Aquariums? Any of you old geezers still
>>got one of those 4-siphon "Super king" filters? "Silent Giant" air
>>pumps....(oh, how far we've come...makes you chuckle when you think
>>about it)...BTW, AquaClears ain't changed much...still gotta run em
>>underwater to kill one
>>
>> -Boy has the aquatic stock in the LFS changed also...you could count
>>on finding Firemouths, kuli loaches, severums, convicts, blue
>>gouramis, et...seems our Swords and mollies have not only shrunk, they
>>are sorrier to boot...anymore, you are lucky to find females amongst
>>the "color enhanced"
>> Asian import stuff..what gives? What's weirder is seems fish prices
>>are "inflation proof"...sure discus are cheaper, but most of the
>>"bread & butter" are still about 1-2 bucks
>>
>> Just offering up sumthin to ponder about (I'm currently stuck in
>>"voice menu phone world", and typing this while I'm waiting
>><LOL>)...NTM, thought I'd jinx the list by discussing a few of our
>>long lost protozoan friends...<LOL>
>>
>> Basically Friendly chat/rambling to stir the list lil...Ken
>>
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