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Re: [Killietalk] Nostalgia, et... parasite ids and microscopes
Hi Dave
your post got me thinking about parasites. We should all keep a microscope
to ID these bugs ICH is very easy to ID. I had a great scope but lost it in
the hurricanes of a few years ago along with many other cool stuff I had lol
But anyway I picked up a cheap microscope at Wally world for $30. For the ID
of parasites its great. All you need is a slide and do a simple skin smear
on the fish and presto. Looking at the slime under a scope really lets you
see the stuff like ICH which is very easy to ID. Once you get the hang of it
you'll be a pro in no time.Anyway I just thought I would suggest that even
at low power you can id most parasites very easily. This also takes the
guess work out of fish health problems. FYI 90% of the time you do not even
have to id the parasite lol if you see a ton of little buggers moving around
you got parasites.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lains" <david at zfin_org>
To: "'killifish discussion list'" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Nostalgia, et...
> Hi Lonny
>
> At least up here in the NW the disease that was called supper ich turned
out
> to be in parasitic copepod. It is very easily treated with dimilin a
chitin
> inhibitor. This bug seems to come and go but the trick is to know that it
> has 10 stages of development and only it's 10th female is parasitic.
>
> Fish are fine in the morning and are literally melting down by the
evening.
> I've lost several long time species to it. Now I treat with dimilin every
6
> months or so and it's hopefully out of the fishroom.
>
> Do you know another disease as supper ich? What are it's symptoms?
>
> Lee's still makes their little simple economy box filters. I prefer them
> over sponge filters as they are much easier to clean and you can vary the
> media if necessary.
>
> Best Fishes
> David Lains <}}}><
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: killietalk-bounces+david=zfin_org at aka.org
> [mailto:killietalk-bounces+david=zfin_org at aka.org] On Behalf Of
> lonlangione at suscom_net
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:41 AM
> To: ken_combs at sbcglobal.net; killifish discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Nostalgia, et...
>
> Ken,
>
> Ich is still around, as a matter of fact it has "mutated" to what
some
> call "super ich". Having owned a LFS for 12 years and having to close it
in
> 1996 because of the superstores, I have watched the business end of the
> hobby go to hell. Large corporations bought up distributers and also
> manufacturers. And they moved out the "slow" selling stuff that hobbyists
> used to use. I have started to work on an article to submit to TFH or
> someone titled, "Where have all the shops gone..."
> This is how bad it has gotten. I'll be 50 this year.
> I've been keeping fish since I was 15. I walked into That Fish Place the
> other day and asked a young clerk where the box filters were. He took me
> back to the wet / dry filters. I said no, I'm looking for box filters,
> little plastic boxes that you put into a tank and fill with fluff and
> charcoal. He looked at me and said," Oh yeah, I heard of those, they used
to
> use them in the old times....."
> Well I finally found them, they only had 4 on the shelf.
> I'm hoping these aren't the last four...
> And yes, Metaframe once owned by toy great Mattel is gone. I was
> driving a back country road the other day, and I passed a pile of junk the
> homeowner had out for trash. On top was a Metaframe, 5 gallon metalframed
> tank with slate bottom. Looked like new, had a small crack in the one
side.
> It is in my fishroom now ;)
>
> Lonny
>
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:58:08 -0500
> "Ken" <ken_combs at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Just musings while stuck in phone menu world....
> >
> > -Remember the 70's?...whatever happened to ich? Where the h*ll did it
> >go and when was the last time you've seen it?...just dawned on me; Ich
> >isn't reared it's ugly head in my tanks or at the LFS in a looong
> >while (remember?; you could bet on seeing "speckled" gouramis at
> >Wal-Mart, something's amiss as I doubt they've cleaned up their act
> >that much already
> ><chuckle>)
> >
> > -remember "hole-in-the head"...is that still around? Or is it just
> >renamed "Hex"?.. ain't heard from that one either in a while; might be
> >the circles one hangs in, kind of like a non-killienut almost never
> >see's velvet...
> >
> > -no scientific revelation here; but seems these aquatic diseases
> >change over the course of the decades...seemed as you visited the LFS
> >circa 90ish, you started seeing "wasting disease" all of a sudden
> >about 90ish...personally, never saw a single fish with it before then,
> >now seems it's pretty common (esp. amongst danios & livebearers)
> >
> > -Same goes for the larger gill parasites & anchor worms, et....used to
> >be "Lifebearer" & "Clout" were once common stock items at most LFS,
> >not sure they've been adequately replaced those products, as you
> >still see them, just not 4 "pegboards" worth anymore...in days of
> >yore, you could count on seeing at least one anchor worm hanging off a
> >feeder goldfish...I'm speculating the outdoor farmers may have done
> >something to lower the incidence
> >
> > -Whatever happened to "Aquatic Warehouse" (or whomever had those 2
> >page ads in FAMA)
> >
> > -Is Metaframe defunct? O'Dell Aquariums? Any of you old geezers still
> >got one of those 4-siphon "Super king" filters? "Silent Giant" air
> >pumps....(oh, how far we've come...makes you chuckle when you think
> >about it)...BTW, AquaClears ain't changed much...still gotta run em
> >underwater to kill one
> >
> > -Boy has the aquatic stock in the LFS changed also...you could count
> >on finding Firemouths, kuli loaches, severums, convicts, blue
> >gouramis, et...seems our Swords and mollies have not only shrunk, they
> >are sorrier to boot...anymore, you are lucky to find females amongst
> >the "color enhanced"
> > Asian import stuff..what gives? What's weirder is seems fish prices
> >are "inflation proof"...sure discus are cheaper, but most of the
> >"bread & butter" are still about 1-2 bucks
> >
> > Just offering up sumthin to ponder about (I'm currently stuck in
> >"voice menu phone world", and typing this while I'm waiting
> ><LOL>)...NTM, thought I'd jinx the list by discussing a few of our
> >long lost protozoan friends...<LOL>
> >
> > Basically Friendly chat/rambling to stir the list lil...Ken
> >
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