Re: [Killietalk] Nostalgia, et...

["David Lains" <david at zfin_org>]

Hi Lonny

At least up here in the NW the disease that was called supper ich turned out
to be in parasitic copepod.  It is very easily treated with dimilin a chitin
inhibitor.  This bug seems to come and go but the trick is to know that it
has 10 stages of development and only it's 10th female is parasitic.

Fish are fine in the morning and are literally melting down by the evening.
I've lost several long time species to it.  Now I treat with dimilin every 6
months or so and it's hopefully out of the fishroom.

Do you know another disease as supper ich?  What are it's symptoms?

Lee's still makes their little simple economy box filters.  I prefer them
over sponge filters as they are much easier to clean and you can vary the
media if necessary.

Best Fishes
David Lains <}}}><
 
-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces+david=zfin_org at aka.org
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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:41 AM
To: ken_combs at sbcglobal.net; killifish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Nostalgia, et...

Ken,

     Ich is still around, as a matter of fact it has "mutated" to what some
call "super ich". Having owned a LFS for 12 years and having to close it in
1996 because of the superstores, I have watched the business end of the
hobby go to hell. Large corporations bought up distributers and also
manufacturers. And they moved out the "slow" selling stuff that hobbyists
used to use. I have started to work on an article to submit to TFH or
someone titled, "Where have all the shops gone..."
      This is how bad it has gotten. I'll be 50 this year. 
I've been keeping fish since I was 15. I walked into That Fish Place the
other day and asked a young clerk where the box filters were. He took me
back to the wet / dry filters. I said no, I'm looking for box filters,
little plastic boxes that you put into a tank and fill with fluff and
charcoal. He looked at me and said," Oh yeah, I heard of those, they used to
use them in the old times....." 
Well I finally found them, they only had 4 on the shelf. 
I'm hoping these aren't the last four...
       And yes, Metaframe once owned by toy great Mattel is gone. I was
driving a back country road the other day, and I passed a pile of junk the
homeowner had out for trash. On top was a Metaframe, 5 gallon metalframed
tank with slate bottom. Looked like new, had a small crack in the one side.
It is in my fishroom now ;)

Lonny

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 12:58:08 -0500
  "Ken" <ken_combs at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Just musings while stuck in phone menu world....
> 
> -Remember the 70's?...whatever happened to ich? Where the h*ll did it 
>go and  when was the last time you've seen it?...just dawned on me; Ich 
>isn't reared  it's ugly head in my tanks or at the LFS in a looong 
>while (remember?; you  could bet on seeing "speckled" gouramis at 
>Wal-Mart, something's amiss as I  doubt they've cleaned up their act 
>that much already
><chuckle>)
> 
> -remember "hole-in-the head"...is that still around? Or is it just 
>renamed  "Hex"?.. ain't heard from that one either in a while; might be 
>the circles  one hangs in, kind of like a non-killienut almost never 
>see's velvet...
> 
> -no scientific revelation here; but seems these aquatic diseases 
>change over  the course of the decades...seemed as you visited the LFS 
>circa 90ish, you  started seeing "wasting disease" all of a sudden 
>about 90ish...personally,  never saw a single fish with it before then, 
>now seems it's pretty common  (esp. amongst danios & livebearers)
> 
> -Same goes for the larger gill parasites & anchor worms, et....used to 
>be  "Lifebearer" & "Clout" were once common stock items at most LFS, 
>not sure  they've been adequately replaced  those products, as you 
>still see them,  just not 4 "pegboards" worth anymore...in days of 
>yore, you could count on  seeing at least one anchor worm hanging off a 
>feeder goldfish...I'm  speculating the outdoor farmers may have done 
>something to lower the  incidence
> 
> -Whatever happened to "Aquatic Warehouse" (or whomever had those 2 
>page ads  in FAMA)
> 
> -Is Metaframe defunct? O'Dell Aquariums? Any of you old geezers still 
>got  one of those 4-siphon "Super king" filters? "Silent Giant" air 
>pumps....(oh,  how far we've come...makes you chuckle when you think 
>about it)...BTW,  AquaClears ain't changed much...still gotta run em 
>underwater to kill one
> 
> -Boy has the aquatic stock in the LFS changed also...you could count 
>on  finding Firemouths, kuli loaches, severums, convicts, blue 
>gouramis,  et...seems our Swords and mollies have not only shrunk, they 
>are sorrier to  boot...anymore, you are lucky to find females amongst 
>the "color enhanced"
> Asian import stuff..what gives? What's weirder is seems fish prices 
>are  "inflation proof"...sure discus are cheaper, but most of the 
>"bread &  butter" are still about 1-2 bucks
> 
> Just offering up sumthin to ponder about (I'm currently stuck in 
>"voice menu  phone world", and typing this while I'm waiting 
><LOL>)...NTM, thought I'd  jinx the list by discussing a few of our 
>long lost protozoan friends...<LOL>
> 
> Basically Friendly chat/rambling to stir the list lil...Ken
> 
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