In a message dated 1/16/06 9:42:44 PM, cobaltt72 at hotmail_com writes: << some black striped something >> Those could be the culprits, especially of they are Tiger barbs. Lee Harper Media, PA Join the AKA at http://aka.org/modules/tinycontent0/index.php?id=9 Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/ Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk