Re: [Killietalk] PBS program on Death Valley pupfish

[markc <markc at wire-online_com>]

Me too! If can upload to some where we can download. For education purpose.

Some one send me part of it sometime back. But only the beginning part.

Bruce J. Turner, Dept. Biological Sciences, VPISU, Blacksburg, VA 24061 
wrote:

>Much to my chagrin, I missed this..!  If anyone has a tape, cd, or dvd of it 
>and would be willing to send me a 
>copy (for my own use, of course), I would be much obliged.
>
>Some misc comments:
>
>1.  Allow at least 2 hrs to get from Vegas to Devils Hole.  It can be done 
>faster, but weather and congestion 
>usually interfere.
>
>2.  The increased size (and other changes) of the refugium diabolis vs those 
>in Devils Hole itself is indeed 
>remarkable.  In addition to size (and girth) increases, the refiuga fish show 
>a return to the "normal" C. 
>nevadensis patterns of mating and aggression.  Some males even get the 
>metallic blue scales on their napes 
>that are not present in the Devils Hole population, and some develop pelvic 
>fins. Unfortunately, I have heard 
>some conservation professionals talk of this as a "failure" of the refugia 
>rather than an interesting semi-natural 
>experiment, and some even suggest that somehow other pupfish hybridized with 
>the refugia populations of 
>diabolis!  More likely, a lot of the morphological and behavioral divergence 
>of C. diabolis was an effect of the 
>(limiting) Devils Hole environment.  These changes themselves have not 
>received the study and publicity that 
>they intrinsically merit, probably because of fears that they would make 
>diabolis seem less "unique" and 
>therefore weaken the case for its conservation.  We do indeed live in strange 
>times...
>
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