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Re: [Killietalk] API is looking for photos (can't we all just getalong?!)
I had contacted Wusong to contribute my limited photo. I would be happy
if more people like to see my pet
and ask me about it. There are many different professional in the
discussion list and "usage of photo" has different
meaning to those who does it for living and those who does it for fun.
I think it would be there would be more "do for fun" type of photo owner
then "professional" type in this discussion list.
Of course if they would like professional quality photo, they should pay
the price for it or negotiate with the professional artist separately
and not on this list.
Isn't that what he does?
Given the fact that english is not our first language, we do hope that
some consideration are being consider when we say something
confusiong or rude.
Robert Goldstein wrote:
>Dave Schaeffer's explanation clarified the origin of the request and was
>reasonable, especially since he's not in the marketing or advertising
>business and wouldn't know how they operate. Erny's flame at Tony was not
>reasonable, under any circumstances, and was disrespectfull as well as rude.
>API might want to state it will pay a standard one time use fee for each
>image used in advertising (generally $50 but more for a full pager), and
>then I'm sure Tony or any other photographer who might have habitat shots
>would consider the request. Professionals work for a living, whether
>photographers or physicians, and aren't required to give free services to
>friends or neighbors or other businesses. - Bob G.
>----- Orginal Message -----
>From: "wusong" <wusong at drunkenbastards_com>
>To: <killietalk at aka_org>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 5:20 PM
>Subject: [Killietalk] API is looking for photos (can't we all just
>>I posted a reply last night, but maybe it didn't go through, maybe it got
>>deleted, I don't know. I also sent a private email to Tony, but judging
>>from his later post to Killietalk, I'm not sure he got that. Probably just
>>as well, since I may have been a little short.
>>Asking for photo donations was my idea. As in, personally. I suggested
>>it at the meeting where this ad campaign was being discusssed. "Hey, I'm
>>on some mailing lists and forums, I'll see if anybody wants to donate some
>>photos." That's about how long it took for the idea to be pitched, and I
>>got a "Hey, great, try that."
>>I'm a bit taken aback by the hostility of some of the replies.
>>As I said in the post I made last night, they say it never hurts to ask,
>>but as is often the case, "they" are wrong.
>>A simple "nope" will suffice from now on! I understand EXACTLY what I am
>>asking. I also know that we at API don't need to ask for photos - we have
>>plenty of avenues through which we can purchase them. Those decisions are
>>up to marketing, not my dept. I'm still interested in what Tony might have
>>to offer, and I will still forward his info to marketing. Bottom line, it
>>was MY idea, it's not some kind of hustle on the part of API. So, MY
>>apologies to any whom I have offended, however misguided your offended
>>sensibilities might be.
>>I can't say much about the campaign, but it important that the fish look
>>wild, it's important that it is a habitat photo or could pass for one.
>>I'm involved so that the folks in marketing don't end up picking well-made
>>photos of orandas over fluorescent gravel or velvet swords. I thought you
>>guys would be a good source for truly GREAT images - that was my ONLY
>>concern in bringing this up. Nobody wants to cheat anyone out of the
>>$$$$$$ your photos could make. So let's drop the subject, I'm (seriously)
>>sorry I brought it up.
>>LEt me close by saying thanks to all those who have, however tentatively,
>>offered photos. I'll see what the marketing folks think. Let's keep our
>>fingers crossed that I can talk them into working some killie images into
>>here as a fellow hobbyist, but I DO happen to work for API
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