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Re: [Killietalk] give linneatus its proper name
Edd Kray wrote:
>
> I'd like to politely make a suggestion to the list and admittedly it
> shows me to be an old "phart" and a curmudgeon.
No argument so far, Edd. :-)
>
> I notice MANY using the term "golden wonders" when speaking of their
> first experiences with killies. We are speaking, of course, of the
> Aplocheilus lineatus tank-bred strain displaying the un-natural gold
> coloration.
>
> Nevertheless they ARE Aplocheilus lineatus and I humbly recommend that
> they be referred to by their appropriate species designation.
Now we come to an interesting point. While I heartily agree with you,
there are many who do not, and many of those are newbies to killies who
have no concept of how many different species and sub-species we have to
deal with. [We even have had some long-term, active breeders who refused
to use collection codes or locations when they distributed fish or eggs.
We have numerous "aquarium strains" now, thanks to their refusal to
buckle to the nomenclature nazis.]
There are similar problems with Rasboras and Bettas, in that a "common"
name that is easy for the trade can be very misleading. Likewise, other
multi-species groups like catfishes have outgrown the 19th-Century
pet-shop name system. The killies get the most bitching in this
department, partly because we have so damned many names to learn (the
species list alone is approaching 1000!), but mostly because we have to
be self-supporting in the breeding dept. Crossing a /Fp. gardneri/ with
a /Fp. nigerianus/ often produces gorgeous fish, but downstream
fertility problems will likely crop up.
Our only recourse has been to be starchy about using the correct
scientific (Latin) names and attaching accurate collection codes or
locations. From a marketing standpoint, this is simply a disaster. A new
young fishkeeper wants pretty pets, not tongue-twisting semantic
problems. Replicating them isn't his/her immediate concern, Keeping them
alive usually is. After they learn to tightly cover the tank, they may
eventually want to know how to make a mop.
>
> Perhaps my objection comes from the fact that I don't like the Pet
> Industry, and the kind of folks who run PetsMart controlling the
> language used by otherwise literate, knowledgeable aquarists here on
> killitalk.
Your example is a poor one, for IME PetsMart has done a pretty decent
job, compared to other large chains, and I have found competent sales
staff and expert biologists backing them up. That is not at all so at
the WalMarts and Petcos I have known.
The snake-oil salesmen of FL and some of the distributors, there, have
given the tropical fish commerce a really bad name. They cannot,
however, hold a candle to the unethical distributors of SE Asia and Nigeria.
I had a Singapore merchant offer to attach any
species/sub-species/collection-location information I wanted to wild
Bettas. His only interest was in making the sale to me, and he had no
concept of what he was doing to the hobby (or he did not care).
>
> Anyway, this is one guys opinion and you are free to disagree as it is
> just an opinion.
Rather than disagree (I don't) I'd like to offer a suggestion. Let's see
if we can do something that will fix it.
AKA standards in nomenclature have been tied to KMI for quite a while.
Unfortunately Ken is only one person and cannot bring out a monthly
revision to reflect the latest knowledge. Is there a better way? That we
still define /nigerianus/ as a sub-species of /gardneri/ is a glaring
example. These are two of our most popular species, and any of us who
have done much breeding of them are aware that they really are two
different species. Ken may have been quite correct in keeping them
together, lacking a recent reevaluation of that group in the scientific
literature, but it is no help to the poor newby who gets corrected on
his identification of his own fish, the very first time he brings a bag
to the club for the auction. More likely, he will be ashamed and
offended and go get some chicklets (at PetsMart?). :-)
We can do better, I feel. Rather than offer my prejudiced view of how to
do that, I'd like to see suggestions from others as to how we can deal
with the problem of accurate identification for breeding purposes and
the simultaneous need for simplicity in the names. Not an entirely
trivial task, I suspect.
Wright
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