Re: [Killietalk] Notho. symoensi

["coveney" <LCOVENEY at swfla_rr.com>]

Hello all!
Thanks for the great information Brian!  That answers all of my questions
and I have a much better understanding of the geographics of this species.
I would be interested in trading several individuals of one sex (that way it
ensures that the fish are crossing) in order to diversify the genes of my
strain with anyone who is interested in about two to three months (Bobby or
Karl perhaps?).  My batch is about 10-14 days old at this point.  If anyone
is interested, please e-mail off list and we can work the details out.  It
would have to be someone who has fish at approx. the same stage.  Thanks
again to everyone for a great discussion of this fantastic killie!

Joakim Coveney
Naples, Florida
lcoveney at swfla_rr.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Watters" <bwatters at shaw_ca>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Notho. symoensi


> Joakim Coveney wrote:
>
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone knows of any other collections of N.
> > symoensi that are currently in the hobby other than the Zam 92/3?
> >
>
> No, that is the only collection that has been propagated and distributed
in
> the hobby. Perhaps a brief history of this species is in order:
>
> In Zambia, all collections of this species have been from the area just
> north of Kapalala. The earliest that I am aware of is that of Pike in
1958.
> Colin Tait then collected it in 1963 and 1964. John Rosenstock and Jorgen
> Sunesen collected it in 1989 and a few specimens did make it back to
Denmark
> alive and were, I think, passed on to Mogens Juhl; however, these could
not
> be propagated so no aquarium strain was established. In 1992 I visited the
> area with Jorgen Sunesen (a Danish foreign aid worker stationed in Zambia
at
> that time) and collected the fish. I brought about 18 trios back to Canada
> and the present aquarium strain derives from that collection. There have
> been no collections since that time. I have been back to Zambia twice
since
> the 1992 trip but concentrated my investigations in other areas. So far as
I
> can determine, the collections of Tait, Rosenstock and myself were from
the
> identical location.
>
> Incidentally, the types for this species were collected by Symoens in the
> neighboring Democratic Republic of Congo (ex-Zaire) in 1962.
>
> >
> >  In the "Pocket Killi-Data 2005", it lists Kapalala in Zambia
> > which I assume is where the 1992 collection came from.  It also
> > lists Samfya in Zaire, but I have never seen this offered in the
> > past (maybe I have missed it!).
> >
>
> Samfya is in Zambia, not Zaire, and is in situated along the western edge
of
> Lake Bangweulu, quite a bit north of Kapalala. The only Notho in the
Samfya
> area is the N. sp. Mansa type which we have collected on numerous
occasions.
> Although this Notho has recently been described as N. rosenstocki, I would
> not be surprised if, eventually, it proved to be simply another population
> and slight color variant of N. symoensi.
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