Re: [Killietalk] $26

["Erny May" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>]

Hello Gary,

> Well, I guess since my name came up, I can't avoid
> this spat either...;-)
Can't agree with you that this is a spat because too
many reasonable ideas and thoughts seem to be
fomented by this interaction; and we have been
generally civil. I do very much agree with you assessment
of the likelihood of successful recruiting in the teen
marked. See you at WAKO

Erny





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Hoover" <gmh52389 at yahoo_com>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] $26


> Well, I guess since my name came up, I can't avoid
> this spat either...;-)
> Yes, Nick, you're right.  I am 16.  And one of darn
> few teenagers (I know of only one other) in the group.
> Dave S. thinks that most people my age could also be
> in the group, and I know many others wonder the same
> thing.  Let me just say that killifish are not very
> popular to the average high-school kid.  Trust me, I
> know.  I tell friends I'm going to Milwaukee for a
> fish show, and they roll their eyes.  Apparently, it's
> just NOT COOL.  I personally dont care, but I'm in the
> GREAT minority on this.  I would bet heavily that
> advertising for the AKA amongst aquarium magazines and
> through aquarium societies is the way to attract
> people.
> What Mike Jacobs did in Florida, with killies in the
> classroom, is great.  But it's also rare.  If I took a
> poll at any of the area high-schools, I may have 1
> other person who knows what killifish are (and that'd
> be the National Spelling Bee champ from a couple years
> ago, he'd just know the definition).
> So, I guess my point is that killies are more of a
> specialty thing, for fish keepers.  The $26 I pay
> would not be a popular thing for my classmates to
> spend that money on.  I feel I get my money's worth.
> They wouldn't.  That's just the way it is with "the
> internet generation" or whatever my generation is
> being called now.
> My 2 cents,
> Gary
>
> --- Nick Ternes <woodland_gardens at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I also disagree that the Internet blah blah blah.
>> > Orlando has a very successful Reef club that is
>> active
>> > has a large active membership. Many are young and
>> many
>> > are women. They have passion and ideas etc. We
>> have a
>> > bunch of Grey hairs and very little if any youth.
>> I
>> > believe such narrow-minded views are not good for
>> the
>> > growth and longevity of a group. Killies are
>> gorgeous;
>> > easy to keep and low cost, even young kids can
>> have a
>> > small fish room. There is no reason the AKA could
>> not
>> > appeal to a wider audience. If we advertise in the
>> > hobby magazines as we have talked about we could
>> get a
>> > wave of internet savvy youth that we could hook
>> but we
>> > must not be narrow minded as some advocate.
>>
>>  Advertising in hobbyist mags is one of the best
>> things we can do IMO. Look
>> at the TFH special issue. Who wouldn't want a pair
>> of eggersi after looking
>> at that cover? It would be nice to see someone do a
>> monthly column. Killies
>> aren't well known anymore, most people buying golden
>> wonders at the LFS
>> haven't even heard of a killifish.
>>  We have a little youth, I'm 26. Gary Hoover is
>> young too, 16ish I think. It
>> seems to me most people get into killi-keeping after
>> some years of aquarium
>> experience, and only when they're avid hobbyists.
>> I've been keeping fish
>> since I was 8, I didn't start keeping killies until
>> 2002 when I attended my
>> first WAKO show. So, I'd been keeping fish for about
>> 15 years at that point.
>> And I'm guessing the story is similar for most
>> members. Don't worry about
>> attracting younger members, just new members. I
>> don't think there will ever
>> be a lot of young members. And when you do see
>> younger people at a show,
>> just be friendly. Don't be condescending, they
>> likely aren't new to
>> fishkeeping. I ran into this a little at my first
>> show, luckily far more
>> people were friendly.
>>  WAKO and AKA are the first fish clubs I've ever
>> joined. (thanks for pushing
>> me to join WAKO Erny) What have my dues gotten me?
>> Some JAKAs, BNLs, and
>> KillieKraps; Information, friendship, more fish,
>> acceptance, and lots of
>> good times. I gladly pay my $26 to the aka. I'm sure
>> when I'm more
>> financially stable I'll become a life member.
>>  Lastly, thanks to all who have become my friends.
>> I'll see you in a few
>> days at WAKO!
>>  Nick Ternes
>> Port Washington, WI
>> WAKO
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