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Re: [Killietalk] JAKA on CD from a member of the BOT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken" <ken_combs at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'killifish discussion list'" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] JAKA on CD from a member of the BOT
> "I can assure you that the BOT does listen, but to
> get anything done, it takes time and effort by
> many people. We are not going to jump because one
> or two people yell about any particular topic,
> but we do respond to ideas and suggestions that
> make sense to as as Hobbyists."
>
> Monty, not attacking you (at all), as I respect what you are saying on
some
> level. But personal assurances that the membership is heard, while no
doubt
> genuine, are still no substitute for open debate. 1-2 people "yelling"
> publicly could be the only viable alternative available that lends a
> evolutionary and/or logical conclusion to a raw idea...
>
> ...As we have seen, this argument in particular has "Evolved" due to the
> input of many (and may yet reach a optimal conclusion)...in spite of that,
I
> still get the strong feeling many members in general (BOT or otherwise)
> would rather have circumvented this open debate from the beginning...Have
> we missed the fact that uncomfortable or not, some decisions just may need
> to be "optimized" via open debate? ...perhaps its that simple...
>
> I for one am very uncomfortable with the current suggestion process.
> Personal assurances or not, as it stands, private correspondence to the
BOT
> (good intentions or not) is still analogous to the ole "suggestion box".
And
> by any reasoning, this is not the most impartial, visible, or optimal
method
> for important ideas & process to be refined...let alone get a consensus
> opinion on what the membership perceives to be important ...
>
> Frankly, I think the current "suggestion box process" has evolved as a way
> to help a revolving core of over worked volunteers try to get things
> done....Perhaps it's just me, but it appears this current CD project
really
> amplifies the fact that the time is at hand to harness the manpower of the
> masses...
>
> And BTW, I cannot see why scanned raw pages can't be made available
"AS-is"
> on the AKA website, poor quality or not...if profits are not the agenda,
> what are we loosing by doing this?...we can refine the info at our leisure
> or for our own personal library...
> I'm being logical here, not confrontational
>
> Ken (44yrs old and already statistically half way finished with this tour)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: killietalk-bounces at aka_org [mailto:killietalk-bounces at aka_org] On
> Behalf Of lehmann at jlab_org
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:04 AM
> To: killietalk at aka_org
> Subject: [Killietalk] JAKA on CD from a member of the BOT
>
>
>
>
> As a member of the current BOT and a longtime
> killinut in the AKA, I would like to toss my two
> cents into the current melee about the project.
>
> A member of the BOT who has some background in this
> area has been asked to look into this project and
> give the BOT some real numbers on cost of having
> it done professionally,(even if in stages or
> sections at a time,) or if the AKA membership
> would be better served by using volunteers for
> this effort.Either way involves a considerable
> effort in co-ordinating and overseeing this job.
>
> Most of the members of the BOT think this is a good
> idea, but we are not going to bankrupt the AKA in
> the process. If we can arrive at a plan that is
> reasonable in time and cost, whether it is done by
> volunteers or professionally it will stand a good
> chance of getting the BOT's support.
> As a dedicated Killie hobbyist, I want to promote
> killikeeping along with the rest of the BOT. We are
> not trying to make lots of money on this project
> but our responsibility is to keep the AKA around
> so anyone can enjoy it and the hobby. One way or
> the other I think we will get it done, but it won't
> be in the mail by next friday (sorry....:'} )
>
> I can assure you that the BOT does listen, but to
> get anything done, it takes time and effort by
> many people. We are not going to jump because one
> or two people yell about any particular topic,
> but we do respond to ideas and suggestions that
> make sense to as as Hobbyists. Please note the
> keyword I used "Hobbyists". We are all in the
> hobby together guys & girls, and the BOT is doing
> its best to provide new info, new ideas, better
> hobby support and still have the AKA around for
> the next generation of Killinuts.
>
> Regards,
>
> Monty Lehmann (30 years in the AKA
> but still young at heart and just a
> killinut!)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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