Dan, don't be confused. You're talking mostly about annuals (killifish). There are many others for a beginner with much less to have to do and not using peat moss. Ed Join the AKA at http://aka.org/modules/tinycontent0/index.php?id=9 Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/ Modify your subscription at http://www.actwin.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/killietalk