RE: [Killietalk] Futher into the morass...

["Richard Pierce" <Dr_Plankton at att_net>]

Perhaps I am just lucky, but my results from fish I bought at the show are
very promising.  These included N&RSC fish, show fish and sale room fish.  I
brought back 19 species.  To date I have fry from 9, no fry from 9 and 1
species which the fish are still too young to produce eggs. Of the 19
species, I lost specimens of 5 species but only 3 species do not have
members of both sexes represented, as I often try to purchase 2 pairs when I
can.  I have fry from one of these species so only 2 of the 19 species are
functionally extinct in my fishroom.  With the hot weather, my fish room has
been in the upper 70's to low 80's, and I expect that once it cools off some
of the other fish will start to produce eggs.

Sunday night I rebagged all the fish I purchased into breathable bags,
adding about 50% fresh water.  All the bags were wrapped in newspaper and
packed into a small cooler.  The fish were all in tanks by about 24 hours
later and I lost no fish during transit.  This included a number of
lampeyes.

I am sure a number of factors come into play when bringing fish home from
the convention.  I could smell that "fish in the bag too long" smell in some
of the bags I opened Sunday night, and think that rebagging the fish saved
some fish that otherwise would have died.  I am also a firm believer in
breathable bags after packing my cooler full with the each bag wrapped in a
single layer of newspaper.  If all the fish were in traditional bags, they
would have filled a large cooler, in breathable bags they fit in a cooler
about 12" on a side!

Rich Pierce
North Attleboro, MA



-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces at aka_org [mailto:killietalk-bounces at aka_org]On
Behalf Of LeeH920226 at aol_com
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:27 AM
To: killietalk at aka_org
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Futher into the morass...


    As further testimony to the problems of bringing home fish from the
Convention, I too, along with Dave K. have had problems with fish I bring
home from
the Convention. I do not have an explanation for this except I can add that
fish that I have gotten from people independently from the auction and fish
sale have generally done much better. These fish have had the same time in
transit and the same treatment when I get them home. The thing they are
lacking is
the time in a tank with people looking at them with flashlights or the time
in
a bag with people holding them up to look at them in the fish sale room.
Maybe
it is those people inspections that are killing the fish.
    Do I believe this? No! But something is putting these fish at risk for
sure. I really would like to get other people's opinions on why this is so.
Dave
has mentioned that he does better with fish from European shows. Why is
that?
I don't think it is because they are better breeders. The fish we get
through
NRSC come from Europe and I have very poor success with them as well.
Perhaps
it is our fish bagging and transporting methods. What is different about
that?

Lee Harper
Media, PA
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