Re: [Killietalk] Aphanius in a pond

["Joe Scanlan" <drkillinut at charter_net>]

Thanks Martin for your wisdom.  I feel that turtles are much like snakes in 
that they have a reputation they do not deserve!  Turtles actually are 
scavengers and do not eat healthy fish. There are few exceptions to this 
rule as you wisely pointed out.  Joe Scanlan in Alabama.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Tversted" <tversted at email_dk>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:40 AM
Subject: [Killietalk] Aphanius in a pond


> Hi all
> I usual keep a very low profile on this list, but this particular topic is 
> what I work with.
> I breed serverel species of Aphanius and in my experience, pond keeping 
> them is the only way in the long run.
> Here in Denmark, Scandinavia, US zone 7, serverel species are hardy 
> outside all year around, only protected from too much rain as this will 
> pollute and change the water parameters.
> The other problem from keeping them outside is predators in form of insect 
> larvaes.
>
> The "hardy" species are:
> Aph. mento from Turkey
> Aph. anatoliae all subspecies
> Aph. danfordii
> Aph. iberus
> Aph. sophiae
> Aph. villwocki
> I usual bring in some pairs before winter but some are left outside.
>
> Both because I enjoy them, and because they eat the insect larvaes, I keep 
> the following species of turtles in my fish ponds:
> Chrysemys picta belli
> Emys orbicularis orbicularis
> Chinemys (Mauremys) reevesii
> Pseudemys nelsoni
> Sternotherus odoratus
> Clemmys guttata
>
> In my experience it is rare that turtles eat fish, they need to starve in 
> a long time or the fish needs to be sick. Ex I have a pair of south 
> brasilian Cichlasoma protecting eggs and the turtles dont bother them at 
> all. However, some species like Chelydra (snappers) and allies will eat 
> fish, the same goes for softshells (Apalone). However, I kept adult 
> softshells of the genus Pelodiscus succesfully with smaller livebearers. 
> The same goes for scandinavian frogs althoug the tadpoles will eat the 
> eggs. Larvaes from newts will prey on fish fry.
>
> Martin Tversted
> http://www.vildensky.com/
> http://www.vildensky.com/vildensky_fishhouse.htm
>
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> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Aphanius fasciatus
> To: killifish discussion list <killietalk at aka_org>
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> I'm interested in keeping killies outside. My pools have frogs, snakes,
> turtles and birds above. How do you keep them uneaten long enough to 
> breed?
> Thanks,
> Wayne Morrow
>
> George & Melanie wrote:
>
> > I was fortunate enough to get two pairs of the Aphanius mento at the
> > convention. Brought them home and put them in my 55 gal outside pool
> > that we have set up for the birds.
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