In a message dated 4/29/05 10:25:20 AM, killiman at iquest_net writes: << give you nothing in return. >> Al, How about those beautiful trophies? They cost more than the auction price by a long ways. Of course you have to enter the best fish. Lee Harper Media, PA To join the AKA see http://www.aka.org/pages/join.html Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/